KK - raise or call?

EUnit24 · #1 03-23-2007, 01:41 AM

What's your play here? Raise? or call and raise turn (assuming villian bets). Villian is seems standard.

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
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Stack Sizes
BB: $198
UTG: $290.90
MP: $233.55
CO: $50.95
Hero (BTN): $206
SB: $254.95

Preflop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $10, SB folds, BB calls $8, CO folds

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB raises to $42, Hero...

shpanko · #2 03-23-2007, 01:48 AM

We are hoping that villain has 9x, TT-QQ, FD, pair+fd? I usually either push here or call and shove turn without a read that villain is nitty. Still it doesn't feel great shoving over that large flop c/r because I always fear a set in this situation. Still the flush draw I think makes it such that we should be getting our stack in. Shove here or call and shove turn

orange · #3 03-23-2007, 02:23 AM

raise or call works. lose to a set and chalk it up to variance.

Claunchy · #4 03-23-2007, 03:08 AM

I shove this all day. If no worse hands will call a flop shove from you here, you aren't shoving enough flops. (This is assuming villain isn't a nit.)

Big_Jim · #5 03-23-2007, 03:46 AM

Call. You have the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Get it in on any turn.

feesjah · #6 03-23-2007, 04:02 AM

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Call. You have the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Get it in on any turn.

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Weaktite77 · #7 03-23-2007, 04:03 AM

I like calling the flop and shoving the turn.

Dazza1984 · #8 03-23-2007, 06:47 AM

Shove the flop. If he has a set so be it. You still have some outs..

Shady_deuces · #9 03-23-2007, 10:42 AM

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I like calling the flop and shoving the turn.

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could vilian be playin A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]??

disciple · #10 03-23-2007, 10:46 AM

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Call. You have the K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Get it in on any turn.

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So if we don't have Kc, then push? Are you saying that there's less chance he has a flush draw so wait till the turn to pot committ him?