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I can The turn bet is relatively weak. The raise tells us whether he is slowplaying a flopped hand or not. I would much prefer a bet on the flop but, as played, I would raise the turn to determine whether he flopped a monster or not. What do you do if you call his 3.50 on the turn and then he 1/2 or 3/4 pots the river?? call again?? he could easily be doing this w/ AJ etc. trying to pick off a worse ace or be doing it for value with a huge hand. If you are planning on calling a certain amount on the river, you should raise that on the turn IMO because aggressive poker is winning poker. I would not turn into a calling station b/c this flop is dangerous [/ QUOTE ] Calling on the turn is good, I think that raising is worse. Our hand is pretty underrepped if we check flop call turn. Villain will fire again with his 2pairs or AJ or whatever but he'll probably also fire again with his Ax because our hand looks so weak. I'm certainly calling up to a 2/3-3/4 psb on the river and I expect to be ahead a little over 50-60% of the time. Raising the turn allows him to play perfectly against us IMO. He's more inclined to dump an Ax hand to a turn raise than a river bet. He's also going to 3-bet the hands that beat us frequently, or try to extract another bet on the river by just calling. There is an argument to be made for trying to pick up the money in the pot, but I don't really like it. Let him keep firing with a hand he thinks is best. |
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You didn't know what to do because you didn't bet on the flop.
You might be drawing very thin on the turn and might have to pay off someone's big hand on the river. You need to show more aggression to really know where you're at, and you might just win the pot right there if they are both drawing or holding a weak pair. |
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I can The turn bet is relatively weak. The raise tells us whether he is slowplaying a flopped hand or not. I would much prefer a bet on the flop but, as played, I would raise the turn to determine whether he flopped a monster or not. What do you do if you call his 3.50 on the turn and then he 1/2 or 3/4 pots the river?? call again?? he could easily be doing this w/ AJ etc. trying to pick off a worse ace or be doing it for value with a huge hand. If you are planning on calling a certain amount on the river, you should raise that on the turn IMO because aggressive poker is winning poker. I would not turn into a calling station b/c this flop is dangerous [/ QUOTE ] TY FOR YOUR FUTURE MONIES |
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As played, check the river. CO overcalling the turn bet isn't nice. If they both were drawing at something, they missed and are less likely to pay off. If they weren't, you are probably crushed.
And I like the passive line because I'm sandwiched. Everyone is talking about raising against SB. We have CO still behind us who cold called a preflop raise and is a passive player. We have to fold out both guys if we want to take the pot down on the turn. |
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jesus raising for info...we need some sort of sticky in the faq regarding that statement.
OP, bet the flop all day. dont give your opponents free cards. alot of their range is stuff like pair + draws (ie. KJ or whatever) and time to get some value before a scare card kills our action. anyways, given that you checked, i dont really mind flat calling turn, raising is fine as well. river is an easy value bet. $8 works. |
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Raising the turn "for information" is terrible. To knock out the player behind isn't as bad, but I still like the call.
As others have said, 7 - 10 on the end is good, fold to a raise. |
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I can The turn bet is relatively weak. The raise tells us whether he is slowplaying a flopped hand or not. I would much prefer a bet on the flop but, as played, I would raise the turn to determine whether he flopped a monster or not. What do you do if you call his 3.50 on the turn and then he 1/2 or 3/4 pots the river?? call again?? he could easily be doing this w/ AJ etc. trying to pick off a worse ace or be doing it for value with a huge hand. If you are planning on calling a certain amount on the river, you should raise that on the turn IMO because aggressive poker is winning poker. I would not turn into a calling station b/c this flop is dangerous [/ QUOTE ] Raising is only going to give u a small pot to win and a bigger pot to loose.. Only better hands are going to call. Floating will be better. Bet river is good though after SB shows weakness |
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*grunch*
You raised preflop. you get 2 cold-callers. You should c-bet that flop since it hit you and also to c-bet future A-high flop against cold callers. In a session when you c-bet A-high flop early on and you get to showdown with an A in your hand nice kicker, people will fold to your c-bet on future A-high flop even if you only raised with 77. Ok onto that hand, c-bet the flop for future hands. As played on the flop, raise on the turn. As played on the turn, bet the river 2/3 pot for value, except if you saw villain make check-raises often before. He could try it since there 2 callers after his turn bet, and checking would induce either one of you to bet and make him crAI. |
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Would someone care to sum up the arguments against raising for information for a beginner?
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I sometimes do this check flop 3way TP but not with 3 broadway cards - bet flop and go from there, as played I'm definitely betting river -proably 1/2 as I don't think villans' have that much.
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