$4/180 FT 4-handed: Flopped Nuts. Now what?

Lyrrad · #1 03-21-2007, 09:32 PM

I'm a relatively inexperienced player, and I just started playing $4/180s. Previous to this I played STTs with little success, and the $1/45 turbos.

This the first time I had made it past 9th place:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (4 handed)

Hero (t55454)
BB (t70937)
UTG (t119813)
Button (t23796)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t6000, 1 fold, Hero calls t4500, BB calls t3000.

Flop: (t13950) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero ???

BB has been aggressive the whole tournament, and I'd had been with him for two hours.
UTG was being aggressive, re-raising all-in often preflop to other people's raises.

My image was very tight. When I bet previously preflop, it was almost always with a premium hand.

The way I figured it, my options were:
1) Check, and hope to induce a bet, and that a flush draw wouldn't be completed.
2) Bet pot.
3) Go all-in.

What should I do?

nath · #2 03-21-2007, 10:19 PM

the converter seems to have the pot size wrong. also, why can't you bet less than pot?

if utg is really aggressive i'd lead about 1/3 pot and expect him to jam over me.

tinty · #3 03-21-2007, 10:24 PM

I think despite the flush draw i'm always checking in this spot vs an aggro preflop raiser. betting into him when you've been tight all game shows a lot of strength. more than likely he'll follow up with a continuation bet and you then can put in a decent raise then with a check raise. obviously you're looking to get it all in here but even if you take down the pot with your c/r it will hopefully slow him down against you a bit as well.

nath do you not think a check is better with ultra tight image or does the c/r make it too easy for him to get away?

Lyrrad · #4 03-21-2007, 10:38 PM

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the converter seems to have the pot size wrong. also, why can't you bet less than pot?

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That's strange. I used the hand converted in the FAQ here: http://clark5.net/cgi-bin/hhconverter.cgi

It seems to have converted it wrong. Is there a better one? The pot after flop is 18600.

I guess I could of bet less than the pot, but it was something I hadn't thought of at the time. Since I mainly do smaller turbos, I'm used to lower Ms in the endgame, and more coinflips.

ItalianFX · #5 03-21-2007, 10:42 PM

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if utg is really aggressive i'd lead about 1/3 pot and expect him to jam over me.

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I like this too. If you lead into him and he has a good hand, he's going to think "oh no you didn't!" and then try to push you around.

jonnyd · #6 03-22-2007, 01:20 AM

if he has anything worth playing he's going to raise your flop bet. i like the 1/3 or 1/4 pot lead most of the time to induce a raise. check is okay but i dont like a check raise much.

dont worry about image too much in a 4/180 most players cant get past their cards let alone start to think about what you might have.

Lyrrad · #7 03-22-2007, 10:43 AM

Thanks guys. This is what ended up happening:

Flop: (t18600) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets t49304 (All-In), BB calls t49304, UTG calls t49304.

Turn: (t166512) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, UTG checks.

River: (t166512) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)
BB checks, UTG bets t64359 (All-In), BB folds.

Final Pot: t166512

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kh Qs (straight, ace high).
UTG has Jc Th (two pair, jacks and tens).
Outcome: Hero wins t166512. 

I was shocked that they both called, and I ended up winning the tourney. Looks like I would of doubled up no matter what I did, but I'll try a smaller bet next time.

Fiksdal · #8 03-22-2007, 11:19 AM

Your stack size is perfect for a checkraise all-in here. If your stack was larger, I'd be tempted to bet/3bet AI.