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Old 03-22-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default do i fold KK preflop ???

3/6 on ftp (Full Tilt Poker, where u can play and learn w/the pros)

750 deep (so it is semi deep poker, ok)

UTG limps, i raise in MP to 30, SB 3bets to 90, BB 4bets to 275

pls give me a line, maybe call/fold/raise all have its merits
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:31 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

as for reads, they are kinda tight sometimes loose, and pretty aggressive (but like to calldown)
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:49 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

Push. I ran two 4-bet bluffs today and pulled them off, and I seem normal.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

do you think a small5bet is better than a shove? villain might get stubborn and call some hands he would fold to a shove. obv u are getting ur money in on any flop.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

actually if the sb is really stupid, I might like a call....
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:57 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

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actually if the sb is really stupid, I might like a call....

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i forgot sb when i first read this. yah i like a call too.
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Old 03-22-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

never fold
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:08 AM
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Money goes in the pot!
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:17 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

easy shove - make it look like AK

even if SB is a moron, that flat call is going to look super strong - you want one of these dopes to stack off w/ AK. You give SB the chance to fold AK by 5 betting, but unless he's a retard, he's folding that anyway in this spot with no FE and almost surely w/o good equity in this pot.
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:29 AM
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Default Re: do i fold KK preflop ???

You can't fold this, those games are way too aggro. Even a really tight 4 betting range like the one below it is correct to stack off.

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

154,107,360 games 0.031 secs 4,971,205,161 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.707% 49.20% 03.51% 75823176 5402286.00 { KK+, AKs, AKo }
Hand 1: 47.293% 43.79% 03.51% 67479612 5402286.00 { KK }
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