I 4bet bluffed OOP and just got called. ewwww

[BGnight]

Only like 50 hands on villian. 24/18/4 He's seems like the TAGish 3betty type so I wanted to let him know early not to be 3betting me light. The 4bet is meh. I basically just froze on the flop cuz I didn't really want to put another $ in this hand. By the way, I suck at reraised pots.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button ($188)
SB ($102.60)
BB ($291.50)
UTG ($264.25)
MP ($270.35)
Hero ($209.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $21</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $66</font>, Button calls $45.

Flop: ($135) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

Turn: ($135) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $143.5 (All-In)

I thought the combo of him maybe having underpair plus the club draw made this an acceptable play.

[orange]

fine.

[JimmyB13]

EWWWWWW just about sums it up...If you are going to do this pf, I think you have to shove this turn, if not outright shoving air on the flop....ugggghhh this is why I hate the state of the 1/2 games on full tilt right now, and apparently stars is much of the same. Hope that he didn't flop the boat, pray for a club and I doubt JJ or QQ folds, probably not even 1010.

--P.S. Please tell me that you would play AA, AK like this also, you obv need to balance this play.

[carnivalhobo]

he didnt check the flop behind to fold the turn, hes calling always. i just check and stack him if a club rolls off.

[BGnight]

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--P.S. Please tell me that you would play AA, AK like this also, you obv need to balance this play.

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Yes, I would against thinking TAGs (at least thats my plan)

[BGnight]

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he didnt check the flop behind to fold the turn, hes calling always. i just check and stack him if a club rolls off.

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I won't get the opportunity to see a 3rd club if I check though. Right? You don't think he could laydown QQ,JJ here?

[schwza]

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he didnt check the flop behind to fold the turn, hes calling always. i just check and stack him if a club rolls off.

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I won't get the opportunity to see a 3rd club if I check though. Right? You don't think he could laydown QQ,JJ here?

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yeah, he folds QQ/JJ here, but he calls AK/AA/KK. i think you're better off check/folding. he needs to be calling AQ/88+ preflop in order to make this a good push, cause as is there just aren't enough hands that he can have that he'll fold.

[Weaktite77]

ya, its OK

[JimmyB13]

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he didnt check the flop behind to fold the turn, hes calling always. i just check and stack him if a club rolls off.

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I won't get the opportunity to see a 3rd club if I check though. Right? You don't think he could laydown QQ,JJ here?

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I think you are right in that you're likely getting shoved on if you check again, so I like the turn push. I think it's possible that some villains may laydown QQ or JJ here, but I really doubt most good ones would. Your line just seems so f.o.s.....thus why it is likely a very good line with AA, AK here as well as your (semi)bluffs. I think you're really hoping for stubborn pairs below 1010 to fold, or AQ type hands.

--JimmyB13

[GrandMelon]

You dont like getting 3 bet do you