NL 100 | Thin river valuebet

[Xanta]

Villain is passive and bad. Can I bet the river this thin?

$100 Stacks

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
5 players
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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls, 3 folds.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($9.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $7</font>, CO calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($23.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, CO calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($53.5, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $30</font>???

[kitaristi0]

Too thin.

[GrandMelon]

Naw I just c/c a decent size bet. Give him a chance to bluff.

[MasterLJ]

Recipe for being outplayed, plus the only standard draw got there. I like C/C better.

[Xanta]

I didn't really like the bet either, but I'm usually a big nit so I miss a lot of valuebets.

To those who say c/c, what's he betting on the river that I beat? He's almost never bluffing (only 1 real draw and it got there) and I think he checks behind most of the time with Tx, 9x type hands.

[kylma]

I don't think checking makes much sense, hard to see what he would bluff with..

I would bet smaller, maybe just 9 or 12 bucks.
He could call this with a worse hand, but I doubt he would when you bet $30.
That would be the bet's main purpose.
But secondarily it would act as a blocking bet, these type of players rarely if ever decide to pull a big bluff on the river when bet into, so I can safely fold to a (big) raise.

[MasterLJ]

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I don't think checking makes much sense, hard to see what he would bluff with..

I would bet smaller, maybe just 9 or 12 bucks.
He could call this with a worse hand, but I doubt he would when you bet $30.
That would be the bet's main purpose.
But secondarily it would act as a blocking bet, these type of players rarely if ever decide to pull a big bluff on the river when bet into, so I can safely fold to a (big) raise.

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He might go for a thinner VB with the Ten. He may check behind (which is still good imo).

[Xanta]

This guy was too passive to vbet river with a ten here. I don't disagree that him checking behind is good, my question was just regarding the c/c vs c/f river line.

[Weaktite77]

standard.

edit: in response to some of the posts, if hero views villian as passive, then he's prolly not gonna try to bluff the river. I think if your willing to check call then you should definitly lead.

I think your more likely to get paid off by betting and getting called by a lower pair than you are to get paid off by check calling a bluff.


and fold to a river raise.

[RiverHebrew2]

if he's rele that bad, then its ok.