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Old 03-21-2007, 05:32 AM
snakekilla88 snakekilla88 is offline
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This hand was from a few weeks ago, but I am reviewing some PT hands and taking a break so I dont get sick of poker, [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img].

Villan here and me have been playing HU on a few other tables for awhile. I have seen him make a few bad plays, but hes not horrible. When playing HU he often will call OOP and cr most flops... and give up on most turns. I have kind of stopped 3betting him because he seems to never go away, and hasnt folded to any of my 3bets so I have been patient for the last 20 minutes or so... I have not seen him overbet before.

Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: snakekilla88 ($1925.20 in chips)
Seat 2: riverrat808 ($140.40 in chips)
Seat 5: zakharka ($595 in chips)
Seat 6: Exitonly4 ($1009.15 in chips)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to snakekilla88 [Qs Qd]
Exitonly4: raises $18 to $24
snakekilla88: raises $54 to $78
riverrat808: folds
zakharka: folds
Exitonly4: calls $54
*** FLOP *** [Td 9s Tc]
Exitonly4: checks
snakekilla88: bets $122
Exitonly4: raises $809.15 to $931.15 and is all-in
snakekilla88:
-About $800 for me to call...

Things change if I have AA/KK?
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:44 AM
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Default Re: Toss it or felt it?..(600nl)

some people take this line with QQ/KK/AA so I think your call gets easier with AA and KK, but I still think this is a call, based on how wide his defending range is, and the number of semibluffs he can have.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:49 AM
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Call AA, fold QQ.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:51 AM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Call AA, fold QQ.

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Old 03-21-2007, 05:54 AM
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Call AA, fold QQ.

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are you calling KK? I think im calling QQ+ and folding JJ.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:56 AM
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Somebody run some numbers, you lazy asses.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:58 AM
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I'll start: You need to win ~40% of the time
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:07 AM
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tossing it, I'd call if the board had a FD, I'd call w/ KK
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:22 AM
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AA is the same as JJ here against ray, he is not making this play with KK-JJ ever.

so rethink it.
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Old 03-21-2007, 06:28 AM
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AA is the same as JJ here against ray, he is not making this play with KK-JJ ever.

so rethink it.

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If he never has KK-JJ (which I guess must include AA also for AA to be the same as JJ) then does he ever have a hand that's behind QQ or JJ but that has an A or K?
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