$60: QQ ITM

[MikeMcQ1]

bigt, check/raising the turn does not seem fine. Explain?

[Pudge714]

Mike,
Check folding the turn is really bad.
So you can either go c/c turn and than check-reevaluate river or just shove because the pot is so huge right now.

[Jibba]

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holy [censored] the advice in this thread is bad... your line is fine... you can do some different things, but raising to 800 and shoving flop isnt one of them...

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How do you figure? That's a standard raise when 3 handed. The smaller raise reeks of trying to get action. Strange to see such criticism from someone who's advice is "you could do some different things."

[Pudge714]

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holy [censored] the advice in this thread is bad... your line is fine... you can do some different things, but raising to 800 and shoving flop isnt one of them...

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How do you figure? That's a standard raise when 3 handed. The smaller raise reeks of trying to get action. Strange to see such criticism from someone who's advice is "you could do some different things."

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I don't think I have ever opened 4x one time this year. Maybe I misclicked maybe once or twice I raised t80 in L1.
4x isn't a standard raise. My standard raise here is 500-600. Also even if this isn't standard most villians aren't good enough or disciplined enough to realize you are telegraphing your hand.

[MikeMcQ1]

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Mike,
Check folding the turn is really bad.
So you can either go c/c turn and than check-reevaluate river or just shove because the pot is so huge right now.

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FWIW, I would never fold there, but raising seems just as bad. Check/call looks like the only way to go. And I'd be calling most rivers (after reevaluating of course [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img])

[Shillx]

I would call after checking the turn. Pushing the turn is okay too imo. Pushing the flop seems pretty pointless though.

[Jibba]

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holy [censored] the advice in this thread is bad... your line is fine... you can do some different things, but raising to 800 and shoving flop isnt one of them...

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How do you figure? That's a standard raise when 3 handed. The smaller raise reeks of trying to get action. Strange to see such criticism from someone who's advice is "you could do some different things."

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I don't think I have ever opened 4x one time this year. Maybe I misclicked maybe once or twice I raised t80 in L1.
4x isn't a standard raise. My standard raise here is 500-600. Also even if this isn't standard most villians aren't good enough or disciplined enough to realize you are telegraphing your hand.

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Standard raise with QQ or standard raise for all holdings including bluffs? I was only referring to ITM games 2 or 3 handed also, but you mentioned L1. Just want to see if we're on the same page here.

[citanul]

if you open to 500 every time you open (even if that's only true itm) it's fine to open to 500.

what, no one likes bet-folding the turn?

[DF_Newbie]

c/c turn c/c river