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Old 03-19-2007, 11:33 AM
skillzilla skillzilla is offline
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Default NL50: overplaying my overpair?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($50.10)
Button ($49.45)
SB ($68.85)
BB ($72.20)
UTG ($45.25)
Hero ($50.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.75</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.

Flop: ($5.25) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $16.5</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $12.75.

Turn: ($38.25) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $38.25</font>, Hero calls $31.85 (All-In).

River: ($108.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $108.35
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Old 03-19-2007, 11:49 AM
peterum peterum is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

any reads on villain?
i would either push the flop or fold..but fold seems to be better here as you can only beat AQ or KK (if villain is stupid,lol)
i don't think villain has 2 pair..maybe JTs...but i'm pretty sure you are up against a set of 8's...
as played i would definitely fold on the turn
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:01 PM
A10Chief A10Chief is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

Very read dependent. Without knowing anything at all about the villain, I probably lay it down.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:02 PM
barryc83 barryc83 is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

Reads on villain are huge here. I'd fold the turn but I'd agree that flop is prob push or fold. You beat Qx, and lose to 88/99/JT/89, against a sane villain folding this flop cant be terrible.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:06 PM
nukewell nukewell is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

i wouldnt play JT like this

either 88, 99, Q9 or 89 being scared of the str draw imo or air.

im probly folding to the re raise without a read and looking for a better spot
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:34 PM
danjohncochane danjohncochane is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

i dont think a fold on the flop is a good play as KQ or AQ will easily raise here and the amount of the raise seems about right with all the draws out there. Call the flop but fold to turn bet as he is always very strong here.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:29 PM
nukewell nukewell is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

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Call the flop but fold to turn bet as he is always very strong here.

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if planning to fold anyway why call the bet

i think its either a fold or a push like he has done
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:31 PM
delta k delta k is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

Since we called the flop we need to call the turn but I'd generally fold the flop unless I had a read that he'd play Qx this way. I don't really see many draws out there, but there is a made straight.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:32 PM
corsakh corsakh is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

Push or fold the flop. You have no plan for the turn if you call.
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:48 PM
Harry Fong Harry Fong is offline
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Default Re: NL50: overplaying my overpair?

Folding on the flop appears to be the only way to go. AA, although the best starting hand is not unbeatable. I come across many players who find it difficult to throw it down when in trouble.

At the end of the day you only have a pair. There are a lot of ways for you to loose and very few for you to win. Unless you have a really good read on villian telling you otherwise, fold.
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