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Old 03-19-2007, 07:25 AM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Is there a resource somewhere that lays out the expected win percentages for different hole cards over a long period of time (i.e., you've played JJ a bujillion times, and won 70% of those times)? I'd like to compare it to my own results so far.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:23 PM
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PokerStove? I'm not sure what you're asking otherwise. Clearly the win % otherwise differs depending on your VP$IP, your WTSD, etc.
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:42 PM
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The expected win% for a given holding depends on the table you are at. I.e. #players, loosenes of players etc. You would win more hands but smaller pots on tight shorthanded tables than on loose longhanded tables.

There is no such thing as an "expected win%" without some assumptions on the above mentioned factors.
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Old 03-19-2007, 02:02 PM
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There's a graph on page 47 i "Small Stakes Hold'em" from an "expert player" with a database of 60K hands. It doesn't display all hands cause it's purpose is to show how quick EV drops going down the hand ranking scale. This graph is based on full ring and not SH.

If it's any particular hand you think you misplay you could make a post asking what stats the members of this forum has.

For exampel my JJ-stats is 74.29% win and an average win of 1,44 BB/Hand
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Old 03-19-2007, 09:32 PM
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There's a graph on page 47 i "Small Stakes Hold'em" from an "expert player" with a database of 60K hands. It doesn't display all hands cause it's purpose is to show how quick EV drops going down the hand ranking scale. This graph is based on full ring and not SH.

If it's any particular hand you think you misplay you could make a post asking what stats the members of this forum has.

For exampel my JJ-stats is 74.29% win and an average win of 1,44 BB/Hand

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Yea, this is kind of what I'm looking for. Thanks. I guess I was wondering if there was a post where people had posted their stats for various hands, given a set of playing assumptions. Probably not, though.
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Old 03-19-2007, 11:46 PM
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They've changed their format around since I was last there but these should get you started:

http://www.pokerroom.com/poker/poker...lue-stats.html
http://www.pokerroom.com/poker/poker...ard-stats.html
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:18 AM
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They've changed their format around since I was last there but these should get you started:

http://www.pokerroom.com/poker/poker...lue-stats.html
http://www.pokerroom.com/poker/poker...ard-stats.html

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Yea, this is great. Thanks a lot!
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:23 AM
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They've changed their format around since I was last there but these should get you started:

http://www.pokerroom.com/poker/poker...lue-stats.html
http://www.pokerroom.com/poker/poker...ard-stats.html

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Yea, this is great. Thanks a lot!

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Are the quoted numbers BB/hand? That seems right...
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Old 03-20-2007, 12:42 AM
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My assumption would be yes, it is bb/hand because that's how their old setup was; but I didn't look closely at the links I gave you.

edit: one proviso is that their 6-handed data IIRC is short fr tables, not 6m tables. But I don't know if that's right or somebody told me that or I found out on my own. In any case just be aware it may not be for real 6m data.
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