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Old 03-18-2007, 12:05 AM
benlj21 benlj21 is offline
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

I fold this preflop. Once you get to the turn I think you should fold but I'm not sure I would in the heat of battle.
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:10 AM
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

He limped PF, so AA, QQ, AQ are not likely.
The only made hands I see him limping with are 33, 22, A3s, 45s al of which have you beat. but does he have one of these hands, I dont think so. i put him on 44, 55, 66

heres why...

Since the flop was checked, what can he put you on on the turn when you bet?
I think you bet too much, your pot sized bet makes you look like you are weak and dont want a call, if you slow played a monster on the flop, you wouldnt pot it on the turn oop when every one else checked the flop would you? I'd consider raising you here. now, that being said, how much would I raise?? well if I had a monster and thought you did too I'd bet it up, but, like I said your turn bet makes you look weak. so If I had a monster, I wouldnt raise u too much knowing you would fold. So the logical thing here is he senses weakness and is trying to push you off it. I say push, worst case, he calls with a set, you still have 2 outs...at least your not drawing dead lol. if he calls with the straight, you now have 4 outs.
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

I appreciate all the comments.

Villain had 33 and stacked me. If this hand would have been played later in the session, I definitely would have pushed b/c this dude turned out to be a very loose-aggressive player that loved to bluff you out with a big bet. He obviously would show a hand occasionally when he did though, so tough to get a read on him.

I've slowly come to realize that online NL 100 plays a lot tougher than my live NL 200 game...and it's not even close.
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Old 03-18-2007, 02:34 PM
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

Tough spot - the sort of spot where it looks like he might be putting you on a bluff on the turn.

I don't know if I could have folded this at the table, but it's true, all you're beating is a bluff, and most NL100 players aren't sophisticated enough to bluff in this spot.
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Old 03-18-2007, 05:12 PM
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

LOL FR
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Old 03-18-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

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I've slowly come to realize that online NL 100 plays a lot tougher than my live NL 200 game...and it's not even close.

[/ QUOTE ]I've never played a live game in a proper casino, but people have been posting that live NL200 ~= NL25 online.
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Old 03-18-2007, 10:48 PM
Erudito Erudito is offline
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

Push.
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Old 03-19-2007, 12:03 AM
Robin Donks Robin Donks is offline
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Default Re: Turned 2 pair, villain raises me.

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I've never played a live game in a proper casino, but people have been posting that live NL200 ~= NL25 online.

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Couldn't aggree more.
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