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#61
03-18-2007, 06:52 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
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Personally when I go to the cinema afterwards I like to deconstruct the film in terms of its geopolitical implications and allegories. My colleagues and I believe this is the only way to truly "enjoy" film. [/ QUOTE ] 
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#62
03-18-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And Gladiator is one of the great movies of all time. [/ QUOTE ] rofl [/ QUOTE ] probably my second favorite movie evar. It goes something like The Matrix Gladiator Scarface Godfather Goodfellas Everything else [/ QUOTE ] so you only like "badass movies". sure 300 will be good then. [/ QUOTE ] no. I like comedies/dramas as well, but I can rewatch these types of movies much more. And if you take 300 for what it's meant to be, a movie with stunning visuals/sweet fight scenes, then it's freakin sweet.
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#63
03-18-2007, 07:26 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
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No you never said that but this is Sparta not Athens we are talking about. [/ QUOTE ] point is that saying democracy is budding doesn't mean that they achieved democracy as we know it. war was about defense of greece no? so why we only talking only about sparta? [ QUOTE ] These movies also glorify war and patriotism, it's obvious these movies are made for americans to identify with the heros. [/ QUOTE ] LDO. fighting for freedom. its about as cliche of a theme as it gets here. culturally dates back to when we learned about the revolutionary war in the 2nd grade
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#64
03-18-2007, 07:28 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] And Gladiator is one of the great movies of all time. [/ QUOTE ] rofl [/ QUOTE ] probably my second favorite movie evar. It goes something like The Matrix Gladiator Scarface Godfather Goodfellas Everything else [/ QUOTE ] cue "one of these things is not like the other"
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#65
03-18-2007, 07:31 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
I liked this movie because it was good.
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#66
03-18-2007, 07:37 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
i want to watch it
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#67
03-18-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
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[ QUOTE ] free democratic society? who the [censored] said that? just said democracy was budding as opposed to being a despot. doesn't mean they have passed the [censored] bill of rights [/ QUOTE ] No you never said that but this is Sparta not Athens we are talking about. [ QUOTE ] and no, don't think gladiator was about america, nor braveheart. you are confusing cliche hollywood themes about freedom with movies being about america. just cause these themes are popular with america doesn't mean that the [censored] movie is "about" america [/ QUOTE ] These movies aren't "about" america but they are about americans and americans hero myths even though the story is based in a historical revisionistical Scotland/Greece. These movies also glorify war and patriotism, it's obvious these movies are made for americans to identify with the heros. [/ QUOTE ] These movies were so popular because they reflect ideology of the American public. The US government was very closely based on Roman rule and culture and so movies like Gladiator do very well. We all want to think that if we were oppressed by a tyrant we will stand up and revolt vs this tyrant. For example in Russia they would not make a movie every few years or so about Romans or Greeks as heroes but instead they make movies about the ancient wars against the Germans, Mongols or Turks. The US has a relatively short history (all the civil war movies are very similar and boring IMO, or its the same movie over and over again about the battle of Normandy) so if you made historical movies just about the US they wouldn't make as much money as gladiator. But the bottom line is movies are about making money so the filmmakers will create what the public will pay to see. There will always be political ideologies in movies because we are brainwashed to care about that stuff. P.S. I will not be seeing 300 because special effects alone do not make a great movie no matter how good the commercials look. I liked the original 300 BTW.
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#68
03-18-2007, 07:49 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
not civil war, but the patriot was far from boring, mel gibbson owned some brits good.
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#69
03-18-2007, 07:55 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
I can't [censored] stand the reactions I get when I say it was an average movie.
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#70
03-18-2007, 08:07 PM
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Re: 300 sucked and is a complete waste of space on my hard drive
I wrote a really long reply but i [censored] up and accidently deleted it.
So all i can say is that i think you don't know much about ancient greece, Sparta doesn't equal Greece if you thought so. I'll finish with a quote that sums up freedom in Sparta [ QUOTE ] The Spartans believed that the love of an older, accomplished aristocrat for an adolescent boy was essential to his formation as a free citizen. The education of the ruling class was thus founded on pederastic relationships, required of each citizen.[5] The ephors fined any eligible man who did not love a boy, because, despite his own excellence, he failed to make a beloved “similar to himself.”[6] Likewise, for a boy it was a disgrace to not find a lover,[7]. By the time they reached the age of twelve "there was not any of the more hopeful boys who did not have a lover to bear him company." [/ QUOTE ] Freedom?
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