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Old 03-17-2007, 10:59 PM
The Don The Don is offline
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Default 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

Villian is 54/9/1.5. There's some history. He attempted to donk the flop (like a 1/3 pot bet) vs. my PFR on a dry board, which I raised with air. He called and then donked the the turn and I folded.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($228.45)
UTG ($137.05)
MP ($90)
CO ($123.50)
Hero ($237.40)
SB ($84.75)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $12</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $29</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $46</font>, Hero calls $17.

Turn: ($100.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $77</font>, Hero...

Plan was to get it in on any non-diamond turn. In retrospect I think I can just 5 bet push vs. a guy like this but I'm not sure as these situations don't come up very often. What do you guys do on the turn?
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:03 PM
AndyP AndyP is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

When he min-raises you twice on the flop, why aren't you shoving? Why wait till turn with a draw heavy flop?
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:04 PM
Kowalski Kowalski is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

I wouldn't stop betting the flop, and I'm shoving turn.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:05 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

I think this is a very easy flop shove/raise. He's never going to fold after 4 betting and you're way ahead of his range. Things just get needlessly complicated when you let the turn hit and it's a K, Q, or diamond, and you risk losing action from 2 pair type hands that are more than happy to get it in on the flop.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:09 PM
DirteAA DirteAA is offline
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Default Re: 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

My god, shove the flop if he wants to get it in there with you.

If I got to the turn in the fashion you did I would probably shove out of frustration and pray he doesn't have the flush; and if he has the str8 so be it.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

3bet the flop c/mr to about 40. It reeeeally looks like he wants to get it in after his 4bet so plz don't stop.
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Old 03-17-2007, 11:17 PM
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Default Re: 100NL: Set of As 230bb deep vs. fish

Hmmm... thinking about it now, anything but a 5 bet shove in this hand is completely retarded. God I am terrible.
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