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#1
03-17-2007, 07:27 PM
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I never know what to do here...
Stats on;
-MP3 are 32/4 -CO is 25/10 -SB is 30/7 No one has done anything special, but i think this is around hand 25 at the table Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game 9 Players LegoPoker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> MP3: $20.55 CO: $13.20 BTN: $24.65 SB: $18.15 BB: $13.75 UTG: $20.70 UTG+1: $7.70 MP1: $7.15 Hero (MP2): $26.20 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T  ($0.35, 9 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks <font color="black">Flop:</font> K  T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J ($1.5, 6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, MP3 calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50, BB folds, UTG+1 folds <font color="black">Turn:</font> K T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [5] ($7.5, 4 players)SB checks, Hero.... I never seem to know what to do here. With three callers, i'm sure to be looking at a least a flush/straight here (and if it's something like a set of jacks, then i'm screwed because coolers are what a bankroll is for), and i never know what i should do. Checking certainly brings on a bet from SOMEONE, but check/folding seems wrong. I'll need 4:1 to see the next card, and if anyone bets here, i think i'll be able to get the rest of their stack if the board pairs for implied odds, so i can still feel ok even if i'm only able to get 3:1. What's the plan here? Check and see what odds i'm being offered? 
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#4
03-17-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: I never know what to do here...
Raise to at least $1.00 pre-Flop.
You tried to protect your hand with a pot-size raise on the Flop. The problem was your hand was multi-way. Wouldn't have had that problem if you had raised it up pre-Flop, but oh well... On the turn, check/call. You have 10 outs to make a boat or better.
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#5
03-17-2007, 10:03 PM
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Re: I never know what to do here...
This was a table full of calling stations. Calling stations are good, because they will stack off on later streets.
But they also make raising TT in mid pos tough, you still get callers behind and either an AKQ or J fall and the C-bet doesn't move them. Do you raise anyway knowing you will be playing a raised pot OOP with a mid pair againts someone who won't fold?
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#6
03-17-2007, 11:35 PM
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Re: I never know what to do here...
I think u should raise PF. If you're committed to limping Pre, I would have overbet flop, then check - see what odds your getting on this turn.
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#8
03-18-2007, 12:41 AM
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Re: I never know what to do here...
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[ QUOTE ] Do you raise anyway knowing you will be playing a raised pot OOP with a mid pair againts someone who won't fold? [/ QUOTE ] yes [/ QUOTE ] Ditto. If they are going to make the "Call too much" mistake, then always do your best to turn it into the "Call too much for too much money" mistake. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] REMEMBER - Against loose players your hands are actually better than they seem to be, because your opponents play so much trash. DO NOT take that as a license to play trash yourself.
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#9
03-18-2007, 03:42 AM
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Re: I never know what to do here...
Raise PF. Pot bet or even more flop.
check / call turn - yeah, even call a push.
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#10
03-18-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: I never know what to do here...
How the hand went down, and do you call this river?
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game 9 Players LegoPoker Hand Converter <font color="black">Stack Sizes</font> MP3: $20.55 CO: $13.20 BTN: $24.65 SB: $18.15 BB: $13.75 UTG: $20.70 UTG+1: $7.70 MP1: $7.15 Hero (MP2): $26.20 <font color="black">Preflop:</font> T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T ($0.35, 9 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, MP1 folds, Hero calls $0.25, MP3 calls $0.25, CO calls $0.25, BTN folds, SB calls $0.15, BB checks <font color="black">Flop:</font> K T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J ($1.5, 6 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $1.50</font>, MP3 calls $1.50, CO calls $1.50, SB calls $1.50, BB folds, UTG+1 folds <font color="black">Turn:</font> K T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J [5] ($7.5, 4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $7.50</font>, CO calls $7.50, SB folds, Hero calls $7.50 <font color="black">River:</font> K T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J 5 [7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($30, 3 players)Hero checks, <font color="red">MP3 bets $4</font>, CO calls all in for $3.95, Hero... Ok...so i missed, but i'm getting 8.5:1 to call this river. Should i trust my read and fold or would i be stupid for passing up on these odds?
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