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Old 03-17-2007, 01:23 PM
Lottery Larry Lottery Larry is offline
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Default Re: Raising blind? (slightly long)

Thanks for the additional info. However:

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If someone was allowed to do what you thought a sleeper was, I wouldn't play in that game either. The reason a regular sleeper (or a straddle for that matter) is allowed, and not every casino or club allows them, is basically to make the players who want to gamble it up happy. These are not winning players (usually) and they think putting extra dead money in the pot is fun. God bless them.

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There's a BIG difference between a straddle and a sleeper straddle. I'm thinking that a late-position sleeper can have a lot of advantages and isn't hugely -EV in a limit game.

If it causes a lot of people to fold, that normally wouldn't in a tight limit game, you've thinned the field out without saying anything about your hand. If anyone calls in front, you can fold with NO cost, or raise or whatever- since the sleeper doesn't count if someone calls, then it's not really in play for a lot of hands.

Therefore, it can only be -EV if everyone folds to you... and then you're playing a short-handed game, where your hand values go up anyway. So, it may not be hugely negative if you're only playing against 3-4 other players and two of them are in the blinds, having to call a raise out of position.

Even in an NL game, if you can get away from your hand, an extra blind or two in the pot isn't a killer if you're deep stacked.
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