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Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
hand 1: Villain is 40/9/1.5.
BB ($942.20) Hero ($388.00) MP ($401.45) Button ($421.30) SB ($55.50) Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, MP calls $16, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>. Flop: ($38) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $78</font>, Hero calls $48. Turn: ($194) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets $307.45 (All-In)</font>, Hero ??? Hand 2: No read on villain. SB ($617.40) BB ($441.30) UTG ($306.20) Hero ($395.60) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, SB calls $18, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds. Flop: ($48) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $48</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $88</font>, Hero calls $40. Turn: ($224) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $509.4 (All-In)</font>, Hero??? |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
1) muck
2) call |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
fold both.
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
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1) muck 2) call [/ QUOTE ] what's the difference here between hand one and hand two? why are we calling one and folding the other? i'd say muck both of them |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
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[ QUOTE ] 1) muck 2) call [/ QUOTE ] what's the difference here between hand one and hand two? why are we calling one and folding the other? i'd say muck both of them [/ QUOTE ] hand 1: villain calls in position - and is playing on a double paired board which OP has no piece of hand 2: villain calls OOP (so I rule out T9/A9 enless the guy is terrible obviously reads would help here) - and is playing on a 2flush/paired board... I didn't see action on the flop (his 8$ bet is mad weird) with proper bet sizing I'd be more inclined to call, but considering how weird his bets are I guess he might have 22/A9/9x here so yeah a fold is better. |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
1) call
2) muck |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 1) muck 2) call [/ QUOTE ] what's the difference here between hand one and hand two? why are we calling one and folding the other? i'd say muck both of them [/ QUOTE ] hand 1: villain calls in position - and is playing on a double paired board which OP has no piece of hand 2: villain calls OOP (so I rule out T9/A9 enless the guy is terrible obviously reads would help here) - and is playing on a 2flush/paired board... I didn't see action on the flop (his 8$ bet is mad weird) with proper bet sizing I'd be more inclined to call, but considering how weird his bets are I guess he might have 22/A9/9x here so yeah a fold is better. [/ QUOTE ] i think you're probably overestimating how often a villain can have T9/A9 here in hand 2. From my experience there are a ton of players, including regulars, who call oop with these types of hands, and i wouldn't be surprised at all to see villain show up with T9/89/whatever. The $8 bet is kinda weird though, and i'm not quite sure what to make of it |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
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1) call 2) muck [/ QUOTE ] |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
1) fold if it's the first time you've seen him act this way. 40% vpip means he's calling w/all sorts of junk and a 5 or 8 is v. likely.
2) baby donk bets and min 3-bets set off all sorts of alarms for me. with no reads or history, i'm probably gone ( or at least am gone in theory here in the thread!). |
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Re: Big pocket pairs facing turn overbets
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1) fold if it's the first time you've seen him act this way. 40% vpip means he's calling w/all sorts of junk and a 5 or 8 is v. likely. 2) baby donk bets and min 3-bets set off all sorts of alarms for me. with no reads or history, i'm probably gone ( or at least am gone in theory here in the thread!). [/ QUOTE ] i think this resumes my thinking much better |
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