Waiting till the turn 3way, then folding the river

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If SB donks the turn also, I'm not raising.

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No? Well I would [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Another thing is that if Hero raises the flop SB may 3-bet a worse K so Hero can cap. If I was hero I would be a lot more reluctant to cap the turn if I waited with the raise.

Basically I just think that raising the flop makes the hand easier to play on later streets and in my experience makes the same or more profit as waiting to the turn

[F Paulsson]

When a player who "is vaguely TAGish and overrates top pair" decides to just call the flop raise and then donk the turn, that smells of a bet/3-bet to me. If we raise the very dry flop, we're loudly proclaiming that we have a strong hand and that king did not scare us.

So with that information, what does he hope will happen if he leads out on the turn? I get 3-bet a lot when I raise turn donks against this type of player, and I'm never, ever ahead with one pair when that happens.

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Well played.

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So with that information, what does he hope will happen if he leads out on the turn? I get 3-bet a lot when I raise turn donks against this type of player, and I'm never, ever ahead with one pair when that happens.

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Maybe I have been running good because that is not my experience at all. Anyways, you make good points and maybe I should reevaluate my play in those spots.

[F Paulsson]

I've been running really poorly, FWIW. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[jba]

river took you from first to third. well played.

[Guy McSucker]

Oops: river was an 8 not a 6. I don't think this changes much.

Guy.

[DespotInExile]

This looks fine. The SB's river donk is very odd. It's hard for me to put him on a set b/c he didn't 3-bet preflop. The BB looks like he filled a gutshot, or maybe he made two pair on the river. Either way, you're beat.

I think this is fine, and I think raising the turn is fine also.

[milesdyson]

I think I disagree that SB's hand is often top pair. This is a rainbow board and it's only 3-way, and he has a maniac to his left to "raise to knock you out." I think he has 9x, 5x, or even JT/QJ pretty often here, and after he gets two calls on this flop, he could very well check the turn with many of these hands. I think we have a massive equity edge, and I don't think that we will always be able to capitalize on it on the turn, so I would choose to put more bets into the pot when I'm 100% sure I can.

[Scary_Tiger]

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river took you from first to third. well played.

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