5/10 River Descion

[good2cu]

I decided to c/r all in. I felt due to my passive/line and the nature of the board my line looked extremely bluffly. All you guys who think he never calls with a 1 pair hand here are crazy and if you never do u are extremely exploitable. I'd except him to call here with a 1 pair hand every time he gets to the river with one.

Results: He called with Ah8h.

In retrospect I like a call here much better as I dont think he is 3 barreling a one pair hand a ton here.

[FoxwoodsFiend]

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I decided to c/r all in. I felt due to my passive/line and the nature of the board my line looked extremely bluffly. All you guys who think he never calls with a 1 pair hand here are crazy and if you never do u are extremely exploitable. I'd except him to call here with a 1 pair hand every time he gets to the river with one.

Results: He called with Ah8h.

In retrospect I like a call here much better as I dont think he is 3 barreling a one pair hand a ton here.

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I think that a one-pair hand calls you almost never without history...if all you know about this guy is that he's goodish a c/r here is suicidal

[jsnipes28]

If he would call a river c/r here w/ a 1 pair hand you prob should have juiced earlier streets.

[robinsons]

is the c/r for value or a bluff?
if it's for value I can't see many worse hands calling apart from lower sets, esp. as the flush got there on the river. I'd imagine him to check behind with a lot of his medium strength hands that he'd be folding if he bet and you c/r.

if it's a bluff, I can't see him folding a straight altho again I don't think that happens anywhere near enough. I still like it more as a bluff than for value tho.

edit: mainly cos without recent history/stuff with this player that you didn't mention, I think it is really really bad if it's for value.

[Isura]

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This is definitely just a call.. by the time the river comes it seems pretty damn likely that this is AK or QQ, and if it's not... The only hands I can see being able to call a CR is TT, and that's because your line looks so passive/drawy. I don't think you even get value from AA/KK here, so what's the point?

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Well if this true you should be c/ring about 100% of hands here.

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Yes. I think you should c/r here. You played the hand so weakly, and a c/r here makes so little sense for any of your legit hands.

[Trix]

Dont think it´s a big deal to be exploitable like that as it´s easy to readjust if it looks like someone is CRing ai light on you alot, which I dont think most people is by default, so you dont want to play a gametheory optimal strategy on the river.

[bigt439]

you shouldda c/r'd the turn...

its impossible to say what you should do now... soooo read dependent... give us anything... (probs call mostly against good tag..)

[Reef]

call

[Moonshine]

g2cu,

what the hell is all this exploitable stuff? you made some comment earlier about how we "should cr this river every time since villain is folding so much..."

but how often are we getting to this river with a hand that's worth c/r as opposed to c/c (like i think you should have done here). wouldnt we essentially have to be calling down with air in order for your statement to make sense?

i just dont see us ever getting to the river with enough c/r worthy hands for villain's play to ever be exploitable here unless we start making bad call downs with like AQ and think he'll vb/f like aces or something to a raise

[SlowHabit]

When I first read the post, I thought the decision was between "calling or folding."

Like FWF said, it is suicidal to check-raise here without some crazy history.

As for the exploitation comment, if you keep check-raising river often, villain has to be really bad to keep betting river without the intention of calling a raise. Also, it doesn't matter even if you KNOW he bets-folds one-pair hands on the river because it's hard to accurately estimate the frequency of one-pair hands in his range using the line bet, bet, slight overbet on river on such a board.