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folds 0 0%
raises and takes a free turn if offered 9 39.13%
raises and fires UI on a safe turn if HU 1 4.35%
calls and raises a made hand on a non-flush board. 5 21.74%
calls and raises any made straight. 8 34.78%
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:08 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

LOL, button raises, you 3 bet with KK and fold to a 4bet? Wow.

What's your screenname? Next time you 3 bet me I'm going to 4 bet with any two since you're only calling with [censored] aces.
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

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LOL, button raises, you 3 bet with KK and fold to a 4bet? Wow.

What's your screenname? Next time you 3 bet me I'm going to 4 bet with any two since you're only calling with [censored] aces.

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this is such a stupid response. Button doesn't know he's folding KK, none of what you're saying matters.

And OP, yeah, you should just stick it in. You have KK, only 140BB deep not 300 like your titlte said. Those saying to flat call, its so transparent. Guaranteed to be put on AA/KK, gonna put yourself in a bad spot against likely AK.
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Old 03-14-2007, 06:15 AM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

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LOL, button raises, you 3 bet with KK and fold to a 4bet? Wow.

What's your screenname? Next time you 3 bet me I'm going to 4 bet with any two since you're only calling with [censored] aces.

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this is such a stupid response. Button doesn't know he's folding KK, none of what you're saying matters.

And OP, yeah, you should just stick it in. You have KK, only 140BB deep not 300 like your titlte said. Those saying to flat call, its so transparent. Guaranteed to be put on AA/KK, gonna put yourself in a bad spot against likely AK.

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Are you really this slow? I'm speaking for future reference.

I mean come on, this a really bad spot to fold KK to a 4 bet, if you 3 bet with any kind of regularity in these spots which every 2p2er basically does, then people are going to 4 bet you with a pretty decent range if they're decent, which villain seemingly is.
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:07 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

right... flat calling will be soo obvoius and also may let opponent hit some crap flop. i was annoyed ta the spot becuz only cost the button $120 to put me to a $600 decision. I folded because if he has AA even 40% of the time here, I would definitely stack off here. then again maybe I'm givong the button too much credit. but I am sure the button was prety risk averse. The last pot I played with him he checked trip aces to me on a dry board...
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

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right... flat calling will be soo obvoius and also may let opponent hit some crap flop. i was annoyed ta the spot becuz only cost the button $120 to put me to a $600 decision. I folded because if he has AA even 40% of the time here, I would definitely stack off here. then again maybe I'm givong the button too much credit. but I am sure the button was prety risk averse. The last pot I played with him he checked trip aces to me on a dry board...

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look stop trying to defend your play, this was an horrendous fold. even if you think he has AA alot here (which given information i very much doubt) you probably have odds to call for set value
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

I haven't seen that bad a fold preflop ever. I wuold be glad to play for stacks against me people with QQ there. Its' button against the blinds. You basically folded KK 3-handed with 140BB. Sick
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:57 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 150bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

agreed...bad fold. this looks like scared poker to me
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Old 03-14-2007, 02:59 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 300bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

STANDARD shove- if he has AA =cooler. He has to be biggest nit in the world ever for me to think of folding KK here. Button raiser could easily have 99-QQ, AK, AQ, or even air.
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Old 03-14-2007, 03:04 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 300bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

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Old 03-14-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: 400nl KK prelfop... 300bbs deep facing 4-bet frrm the button.

OMG this is god awful. do you realize he raised from the button which, by itself, for most opponents widens their range and you proceed to reraise from the blinds which you could be doing with an even wider range if you are any type of thinking player, which i'm now starting to doubt.

please push this all in. if he calls you'll see QQ and AK wayyyyyyyyyy more times than AA.
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