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Old 03-11-2007, 09:59 AM
chasern1 chasern1 is offline
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Default 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

villain 22/18/5

Full Tilt Poker
$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
CO: $51.25
BTN: $65.80
SB: $11.9
Hero (BB): $47.75
UTG: $66.80

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Q Q ($0.75, 5 players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $2</font>, CO folds, BTN folds, SB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.25</font>, UTG calls $4.25

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12.75, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises to $22</font>
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

I can't think of anything in villain's range that gives you anything better than a coinflip. Fold.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

How much history do you have with the Villain? Does he fast-play or slow-play sets? Would he bet a draw strongly? Does he bet overpairs strongly?

Given the Villain's PFR %, it's possible you're up against a flopped set, but you could also be looking at TT or JJ here.

I don't think you can call here, since you'll be out of position on the turn. If you think you're ahead and you're willing to get it all in, either push now or call the flop bet and c/r all-in on the turn.

According to PokerStove, you've still got over 50% equity in the pot even if Villain is only playing AA-66 or AK/AQ.

If you're feeling lucky, look to get all the money in.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:14 AM
Klopzi Klopzi is offline
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

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I can't think of anything in villain's range that gives you anything better than a coinflip. Fold.

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If it's a coin flip, OP's getting odds to push here.
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Old 03-11-2007, 10:33 AM
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

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I can't think of anything in villain's range that gives you anything better than a coinflip. Fold.

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If it's a coin flip, OP's getting odds to push here.

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But against a lot of villain's range, its way worse than a coin flip.
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Old 03-11-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

Very coordinated board, that fits a wide range of hands I just don't see how you can be a favorite in calling this and I think you should be able to get away from this.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:56 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

looks kinda sketchy, i dont think with the hand ranges you can call that, OOP for the turn, and in the hand you are either in a coin toss or are already a huge underdog (draw or set), and on the turn you wont know which,....its true you could reraise, but unless you know something about him, i think you can just fold
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: 50NL 6max: QQ getting reraised on flop

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If you think you're ahead and you're willing to get it all in, either push now or call the flop bet and c/r all-in on the turn.

According to PokerStove, you've still got over 50% equity in the pot even if Villain is only playing AA-66 or AK/AQ.

If you're feeling lucky, look to get all the money in.

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this is a push-or-fold situation. Villain is calling a push here pretty much always so there's no value in waiting until the turn. IMO villain's range is AA-66, JTs, T9s or a sneaky two pair (last two unlikely.) i don't think he's ever playing AK or AQ this way. so of all of those hands there's 1 you crush (JJ), and two against which you're a marginal favourite (T9 and TT), which def. makes this a fold.
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