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Re: First time in a while where I really didn\'t know what to do
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Loc: learning how to fold when beat [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i think folding yields most profit in the long term [/ QUOTE ] hmmm blue.. tough spot you can't call, because your implied odds are basically non-existant, and you don't have direct odds, so we can throw that out the door, unless you are comfortable c/fing to any future action, unless you hit your J i'm not even sure if c/cing a diamond would be winning you a lot of money, but you probably have to call since he's been 4-betting a lot, his range may very well contain enough air or hands that can't stand heat that pushing is +EV ask yourself what you think his four betting range is, and do the math, if you want, but intuitively, given the situation, i think a push should be profitable |
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Re: First time in a while where I really didn\'t know what to do
B/3B AI
edit: make sure you dont get it in against AdAx, QdQx, AdKx if his range consists of much more than this you can get it in correctly. |
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Re: First time in a while where I really didn\'t know what to do
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some donk ain't folding TPTK after he puts 1/7 of his stack in pf you said his smaller bets tended to be bluffs, and his flop bet was a slight overbet, which means your hand is no good here, yeah? Or did I misinterpret? [/ QUOTE ] well he min-raise bluffs the flop and turn sometimes; however, when he actually bets, he bets pretty big. |
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Results
Well, I didn't learn much from this thread. oh well.
I pushed, he called. Unfortunately he had A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K, and I was pretty much fcked. Perhaps the diamond in my hand caused me to overplay it; I basically thought "lots of times I'm ahead and he'll fold or maybe even call (eg- some bad pocket pair), sometimes I'm behind and he'll call; but even if he does I have outs. And occasionally maybe he'll even fold a btter hand (like QQ no diamond) although this is very unlikely considering i sometimes expect him to call w/ worse." but a big part of the reason I pushed was b/c i had the J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]...I woulda insta-folded w/o it. |
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Re: Results
Mike makes a very good point in saying that you can never be very far ahead if you get it all in now. However, as evidenced, you can be quite far behind. A fold here could be considered to be +EV.
Shoving is obviously better than calling but as far as being ahead, pretty much only a hand with the naked Ad, or some nonsense like Kx9d, is in the range of hands you're beating. |
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