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Old 03-10-2007, 05:25 AM
jedinemesis jedinemesis is offline
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Default Re: Nuts straight + open ended straight flush draw

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After the flop you have "vulnerable nuts".
2 Players are very interested in this flop, & there is the real possibility of flush/str8t draws that will beat you.
A) - Perhaps a flop bet of $750-800 would have been right..
you may have taken the pot, & if you still had caller(s), check fold the spade turn & leave yourself with >= 10xBB..
B) - Pushing the turn or flop is an alternative as well..
Are you going to call off the rest of your chips if a spade hits the turn, & you are raised or re-raised....., you apparently did, so why not push them in Pre & get some fold equity....

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You're folding a flush here?
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Old 03-10-2007, 05:31 AM
eigenvalue eigenvalue is offline
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Default Re: Nuts straight + open ended straight flush draw

I'm all-in on the flop. The pot contains $650 already and a minraise with $1300 left is terrible. Raise all-in and hope to find a caller that wants to chase or thinks top pair is worth a call. Both players have invested $225 in this pot, so it's likely that someone calls when you have the very best hand.
Minraising here is ridiculous.
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:02 AM
HighStakesPro HighStakesPro is offline
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Default Re: Nuts straight + open ended straight flush draw

Raise to 650 on the flop, that way you can bet all in on the turn instead of 400
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:39 AM
Vraket Vraket is offline
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Default Re: Nuts straight + open ended straight flush draw

I hate the turn. It really looks like you have what you have, and since you're so short, villain won't think that you represent what you have without having it because it doesn't make sense with your stack and the given action (pot bet + call).
Id push flop with your stack and raise it more with a bigger stack, so I can push turn without over betting.

It's a good flop to get it in on because

1. they might think you have the draw and call with a mere jack
2. both players are interested
3. they'll get decent odds if they're on the draw since you're short and the pot is big (fd or oesd)
4. you hold both the outs for fd and oesd, and you need to charge before they miss. Minraisaing is not how we charge.
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:01 PM
Larude Larude is offline
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Default Re: Nuts straight + open ended straight flush draw

The overbet from the BB probably means toppair; in fact he is really afraid of drawing hands so it looks, the other guy which calls must have a flusdraw or a straightdraw with something addtionally otherwise he is playing bad poker (that could be the case though). So i put him on QJs, KQs, AJs, AQs or KQ; seen his big chance of having a better flushdraw then you do you should have pushed on the flop.
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