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Old 03-09-2007, 03:05 AM
jumbojacks jumbojacks is offline
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I have villain over 30/0 for 25 hands if that's worth anything. Given that we're a little somewhat deep I just felt I was beat here and the somewhat min-raise from the BB just looks fishy. Meh, did I make a mistake here?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($71.60)
SB ($49.75)
BB ($74.40)
UTG ($47.90)
MP ($50.10)
CO ($50.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $15</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $74.4</font>, Hero folds.

He thought for a few seconds before shoving.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:07 AM
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25 hands is virtually nothing. I don't think I don't felt it here. If he has AA in this spot, that is tough luck. But getting it all-in preflop with AA and KK is what I look for always. It's not AK where you want to push but not call.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:08 AM
MrMxyztplk MrMxyztplk is offline
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Why not call the 3-bet w/ position? I don't like 4-betting a 3-bettor that never raises in the first place.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:14 AM
jumbojacks jumbojacks is offline
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If he has AK/QQ/JJ, I think he'll be calling my 3bet and since we're a bit deeper I think 4betting here helps to get more money into the pot so I could take his stack.

I could just shove the flop and even though it'll be a slight overbet, I think he'll be more likely to call me than call 2 big bets on 2 separate streets.
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Old 03-09-2007, 03:27 AM
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Why not call the 3-bet w/ position? I don't like 4-betting a 3-bettor that never raises in the first place.

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First, the sample size is tiny. He raises the next three hands and the PFR goes up to 10.
Second, I don't want to let him get away with AQ, AK when he doesn't hit on the flop. I want to get my money in when I am very likely to be the favorite. And when you just call his 3bet, what are you going to do on a ragged flop? Would you fold that, because you put him on AA? Probably not. So I love to get the money in when there is a good chance that he is pushing with AK or a smaller PP and not let him see a flop first.
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Old 03-09-2007, 04:26 AM
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I get it all in preflop. I would have to have a much better read on this guy before I fold KK preflop.
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Old 03-09-2007, 04:44 AM
Vyse Vyse is offline
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It's KK dude. Get it all in.
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Old 03-09-2007, 04:58 AM
whoisthedrizzle whoisthedrizzle is offline
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I guess you could just call his raise, but you'll probably just get in on the flop if an ace doesn't come. Unless I have some sort of read that tells me he can't have something like AK or QQ I'm willing to put my stack in preflop.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:05 AM
marvin_1935 marvin_1935 is offline
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meh, it's only 140 BBs, i shove

i think his range is QQ+ and AK. you're a favorite against his range.
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Old 03-09-2007, 05:20 AM
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