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Old 03-08-2007, 01:23 PM
sgepower sgepower is offline
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Default nl50 set on river

villian was unknown ,
just sat down a couple of hands before


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$0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
MP: $45.70
CO: $100
BTN: $25.75
Hero (SB): $59
BB: $37.1
UTG: $65.45

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($0.75, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $1.75</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $6.50</font>, BB folds, CO calls $4.75

<font color="black">Flop:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($13.5, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, CO calls $7

<font color="black">Turn:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($27.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

<font color="black">River:</font> Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] ($27.5, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all in to $86.50</font>, Hero calls all in for $30.75
Uncalled bet of $40.75 returned to CO



What is your opinion about his allin on the river ?
Is there anybody who would muck his set ?
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:24 PM
marvin_1935 marvin_1935 is offline
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Default Re: nl50 set on river

bet the turn
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: nl50 set on river

Checking is not a big mistake, you have to fold if he repops and he aint going nowhere with a Q.

This is an easy call and I think you see a 2 pair/busted flushdraw/lower set alot.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:27 PM
Klopzi Klopzi is offline
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Default Re: nl50 set on river

Assuming Villain would re-raise with AA-QQ and call your 3-bet with your standard assortment of raising hands, you've got to call.

Villain has position on you and your $15 flop bet looks weak. You've probably induced a river bluff here and you should happily call.

Don't be surprised to see a QJ or JT here, I think.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: nl50 set on river

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This is an easy call and I think you see a 2 pair/busted flushdraw/lower set alot.

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o rly?

hero 3bet pf, bet weakly on the flop and a call me bet on the river. villain knows AK is SOLIDLY in hero's range, and still shoves. imo, this is NEVER busted draws/2pairs, this is 80% AK, 5% QQ, 15% random other stuff. no way this is an easy call, i can fold here no problem.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:45 PM
Klopzi Klopzi is offline
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Default Re: nl50 set on river

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villain knows AK is SOLIDLY in hero's range

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If Villain was unknown, how do we know this? True, the Villain himself may hold AK here, but there are any number of other hands that he could be holding.

Unless you can see Villain's cards here, I can't see folding here.
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: nl50 set on river

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villain knows AK is SOLIDLY in hero's range

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If Villain was unknown, how do we know this? True, the Villain himself may hold AK here, but there are any number of other hands that he could be holding.

Unless you can see Villain's cards here, I can't see folding here.

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well, i'm not going to assume he's totaly braindead just because he's "unknown" also, it's NL50, everyone puts you on AK. lastly, there are no worse hands that do this, two pair hands are calling and praying you dont have AK.
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