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Old 03-07-2007, 10:32 AM
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Two players seem to completely disappear from the HH. At what point did they fold? Or are they still involved in the hand?


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Sorry, they folded to the turn raise, four to the river
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:46 PM
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Results?
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:49 PM
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Very easy bet.

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Old 03-08-2007, 12:03 AM
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Insightful. Why?
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Old 03-08-2007, 01:51 AM
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Insightful. Why?

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Given the preflop action the holding of the BB and SB are overpairs, each with a likley redraw when the diamond hits. When everyone checks a total BLANK on the river, your hand is good. They have woke up as no one with a flush checks here, if someone else flopped a set and decided to check the river, so be it, bet.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:10 AM
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But given the massive amounts of turn action, would be it unreasonable to expect a villain to go for a check-raise here?

I'm not advocating that play here, but it's certainly a possibility.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:33 AM
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But given the massive amounts of turn action, would be it unreasonable to expect a villain to go for a check-raise here?

I'm not advocating that play here, but it's certainly a possibility.

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Monsters under the bed. SB has AA w/Ad and missed, BB can't fold his overpair, and they fear you have the flush, bet.
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Old 03-08-2007, 08:58 AM
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Is Bodog always this loose/bad? I limp behind with mid-pairs, usually, but there's value in a raise if you'll still get a bazillion runners.

SB would be crazy not to lead a flush on the river, looking to 3-bet. He probably has AdA. You can bet/call, and scream a little if someone actually has TT or a weird flush.
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Old 03-08-2007, 09:25 AM
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Results?

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I bet the river SB called, BB called, UTG folded

SB- KcKd
BB- QsQd

UTG wrote in the chatbox that he had 44; which means he had Ad dust
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