NL400 QQ hand

TO1 · #1 03-07-2007, 08:07 PM

I've read on 2+2 for a couple of years and have never posted so I dont know how to use the hand convertor.

not much of a read on villain he is at a lot of my tables and seems to be a winning player. We have reraised each other preflop a few times but never played a real pot.

POKERSTARS GAME #8788141007: HOLD'EM POT LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2007/03/07 - 18:11:17 (ET)
Table 'Tros V' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: erniegota ($168.45 in chips)
Seat 2: DrCaligula ($370.85 in chips)
Seat 3: crapface82 ($394 in chips)
Seat 4: bryanboyd ($716.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Takeover1 ($576.50 in chips)
Seat 7: cheo001 ($75.95 in chips)
Seat 8: jb hvolgaard ($196.20 in chips)
Seat 9: thebirdman84 ($526.70 in chips)
DrCaligula: posts small blind $2
crapface82: posts big blind $4
kkellyQQ: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Takeover1 [Qc Qh]
bryanboyd: folds
Takeover1: raises $10 to $14
cheo001: folds
jb hvolgaard: folds
thebirdman84: folds
erniegota: folds
DrCaligula: folds
crapface82: calls $10
*** FLOP *** [8s 8d 7s]
crapface82: checks
Takeover1: bets $20
crapface82: calls $20
*** TURN *** [8s 8d 7s] [3h]
crapface82: bets $44
Takeover1: raises $76 to $120
crapface82: calls $76
*** RIVER *** [8s 8d 7s 3h] [Ac]
crapface82: bets $240 and is all-in

TO1 · #2 03-07-2007, 08:08 PM

BTW he probably views me as TAG and his turn lead and river allin were nearly instant

Mr_Donktastic · #3 03-07-2007, 08:14 PM

Wow...weird line by villian.

Looks like a busted FD or a monster (full house or flopped trips). Problem is the busted FD could have just caught an A.

Easy fold I guess?

Falc · #4 03-07-2007, 08:18 PM

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I've read on 2+2 for a couple of years and have never posted so I dont know how to use the hand convertor.

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lol, you've missed the link in every converted hand that leads to the converter?

Anyway, for the hand. The ace probably didn't change his hand but the fact that he shoved when it hit probably means you're beat. I'll just call the turn also.

TO1 · #5 03-07-2007, 08:21 PM

where do i find the convertor link?
and if you just call turn is your plan to fold to a riv bet?

futuredoc85 · #6 03-07-2007, 08:23 PM

call turn planning to call river. as played i think i fold b/c this is not the line people often take w/ missed draws, and his whole line looks like 77 a lot, and a lot of the time its not its AsXs. this is a bad river to snap off bluffs on and thats coming from someone who loves to catch bluffs. too many of his missed draws have you beat here

Panthro · #7 03-07-2007, 08:47 PM

bleh, hate the turn raise. Muck river.

Cry Me A River · #8 03-07-2007, 09:20 PM

Convertor is here:

http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Very easy to use! I keep it bookmarked...

PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($168.45)
SB ($370.85)
BB ($394)
UTG ($716.55)
Hero ($576.50)
MP1 ($75.95)
MP2 ($196.20)
CO ($526.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, Hero raises to $14, 5 folds, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20.

Turn: ($70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $44, Hero raises to $120, BB calls $76.

River: ($310) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $240 and is all-in

Cry Me A River · #9 03-07-2007, 09:32 PM

Kinda a strange line for villain to take with a monster or AA/KK, but, unless you have some read on this guy or some history I think you have to take his word for it and fold river. Not a very good spot him him to bluff given the possibility your AK just hit. So while he may be trying to take advantage of a scare card, it's also very likely he has Ax[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] or 88/87/77.

Not really a big fan of the turn raise either, unless you have a read he floats->donks a lot. I'd generally just call, tell myself it's pot control, and then re-evaluate river. He could easily play 99 like this (up to the turn bet, anyhow) and I'd really just like a showdown rather than force the issue and create a big pot when I'm not really sure where I'm at.