Marginal Hand Question...

brainfreeze0 · #1 03-06-2007, 08:46 PM

With a marginal hand like middle or 3rd button weak kicker is it proper to cold call a raise? or to even go to the river or is it better to just fold?

DrModern · #2 03-06-2007, 08:53 PM

I don't know what "middle or 3rd button weak kicker" means but the answer to you question is probably "no," though the real answer is "it depends." That's just a way of saying, of course, that the question is too broad to really answer.

Post a hand that contains an example of the kind of thing you're thinking of. Or just make one up that exemplifies the point in question.

shamus · #3 03-06-2007, 09:08 PM

(Flopping) middle or third pair w/weak kicker (from button)? If that's what is meant, then you might take it to river if heads-up. But yes, need some clarification and/or an example here . . .

Brain · #4 03-06-2007, 09:10 PM

I think I remember reading that 3rd button=3rd pair (in SuperSystem) so I would say probably not unless the pot is extremely large. Like Dr. M said, post a hand with some pot and player information and we can make a better decision.

DrModern · #5 03-06-2007, 09:12 PM

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I think I remember reading that 3rd button=3rd pair (in SuperSystem)

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LOL Brunson is such a [censored] donk. He probably made this terminology up. The English in that book is so awful I barely even know what to say about it.

bravos1 · #6 03-06-2007, 09:33 PM

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"middle or 3rd button weak kicker"

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Ovbiously it means you in HJ w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

I never fold middle button, but sometimes will not defend 3rd.

DrModern · #7 03-06-2007, 09:35 PM

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Ovbiously it means you in HJ w/ A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Like Duh Ovbiously.

brainfreeze0 · #8 03-06-2007, 09:46 PM

LOL...you were right I got the button term from Super System, I thought it was a normal term but guess not...Heres a made up example of what I mean...

Hero (CO) 7D,5D

Flop comes Jack(D) 7H 3C

one of the limpers bets....should I stay or should I do..

DrModern · #9 03-06-2007, 09:50 PM

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LOL...you were right I got the button term from Super System, I thought it was a normal term but guess not...Heres a made up example of what I mean...

Hero (CO) 7D,5D

Flop comes Jack(D) 7H 3C

one of the limpers bets....should I stay or should I do..

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You're gonna need preflop action, too.

brainfreeze0 · #10 03-06-2007, 09:54 PM

Ok I have an example on my other post I just wrote about earlier...lets say on that hand I had not open raised with the 5 and someone else had...what would I have done...youll find that post "Did I play this right...Hand Review included"...