is pushing A8s from utg with short stack +ev?

[rapsu]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t1200 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button (t4400)
SB (t15825)
BB (t7995)
Hero (t13490)
UTG+1 (t15220)
MP1 (t31340)
MP2 (t9985)
CO (t43115)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t13490</font>, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>.

Final Pot: t13910

[betgo]

This is bad. I wouldn't push AJo here. If you had like 6xBB, the push would be OK. With a big ante like live or on Full Tilt, thepush might not be terrible, but I would probably make a small raise instead or fold if the table was loose. On Stars, I think folding is best.

[Cornell Fiji]

no

[AragornX151]

Hmm. I agree that A8 should be folded there. AJ seems like a toss-up to me since you'll get calls from 88-TT almost always, and a coin flip isn't a bad spot with that M. What's the minimum in most people's views, AQ?

[DiscipleAA]

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Hmm. I agree that A8 should be folded there. AJ seems like a toss-up to me since you'll get calls from 88-TT almost always, and a coin flip isn't a bad spot with that M. What's the minimum in most people's views, AQ?

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Yup, raising into 7 people the minimum raise (keep in mind we are talking value here, with a read attempting a steal is obviously different) with an A is AQ

[Mr Know It All]

have to push with short stack,u is desperate for loads of chip so have to push

[blankoblanco]

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Hmm. I agree that A8 should be folded there. AJ seems like a toss-up to me since you'll get calls from 88-TT almost always, and a coin flip isn't a bad spot with that M. What's the minimum in most people's views, AQ?

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Yup, raising into 7 people the minimum raise (keep in mind we are talking value here, with a read attempting a steal is obviously different) with an A is AQ

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What about KQs?

[betgo]

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Hmm. I agree that A8 should be folded there. AJ seems like a toss-up to me since you'll get calls from 88-TT almost always, and a coin flip isn't a bad spot with that M. What's the minimum in most people's views, AQ?

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Yup, raising into 7 people the minimum raise (keep in mind we are talking value here, with a read attempting a steal is obviously different) with an A is AQ

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With 11xBB, you might also be able to push AJs.

[rapsu]

folding even AJo from here? Is this sure +ev? I normally(with nice stack) AJo is the minimum hand with I raise. Now I am shortstack, I have to push at least AJo because I am desperate for chips?

[LuckyLloyd]

AJo is a push with 10 BBs.