NL200 Way too weak ??? (Line check)

jetsetboy · #1 03-03-2007, 01:42 PM

I'm not running so here are a few hands I might have played weakly:

Hand #1:

Vilain is 16/7.5/1 over 480 hands. He didn't get out of the line before.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($42.75)
SB ($234.85)
BB ($195.70)
UTG ($33)
Hero ($198.95)
MP1 ($233.20)
MP2 ($37)
MP3 ($190.45)
CO ($243.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 6 folds, BB calls $5.

Flop: ($15) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $12, BB calls $12.

Turn: ($39) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $30, BB calls $30.

River: ($99) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $55, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $154

One week ago I wouldn't have fold to this river bet and would have bet $33 on the turn instead of $30. One week ago I wasn't in the middle of my worst downswing.

I think I'm beat quite often here (KcQc to JcTc) but I made him pay for his draw and it's $55 for $154. I'm not even sure he is betting enough to make this hand EV+ for him (including reverse implied odds if he doesn't old Qc or 7c). His betting size is weird. Is he milking ? Is he making a strong blocking bet with AQo?

Hand #2:

vilain is 18/12/2.5 over 181 hands if that means something. Seems good. He isn't overagro (3bing light) preflop but as I'm agro preflop he might very well have adjust and 3bed with a wider range than just AK/QQ+.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($42.75)
UTG+1 ($221.85)
MP1 ($0)
MP2 ($32)
Hero ($196)
CO ($230.20)
Button ($635.70)
SB ($192.15)
BB ($243.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
3 folds, Hero raises to $7, CO raises to $24, 3 folds, Hero calls $17.

Flop: ($51) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $36, Hero calls $36.

Turn: ($123) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: ($123) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $140, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $263

I am seing monster everywhere. I think I need to bet this flop. I don't know. I hate to play KK on a Q-high flop against a thinking vilain who have reraised me preflop. In the same time my hand is really face up here and the river is really a good scary card. Should I donk lead the flop or the turn to avoid this kind of situation ? What do you think of the overbet on the river ? I thought he has AA/AQ or air...

Hand #3:

Vilain here is Joroy70 on this board. Is he posting UTG for deception I dunno, ask him [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Anyway he is 920/7/1 over 1k hands.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($216.50)
Button ($227.85)
SB ($288.45)
BB ($110.35)
UTG ($208.60)
UTG+1 ($136.15)
MP1 ($198)
MP2 ($171.25)
MP3 ($231.65)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1. UTG posts a blind of $2.
4 folds, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, UTG (poster) calls $5.

Flop: ($15) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $35, Hero calls $24.

Turn: ($85) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG bets $60, Hero folds.

C/R on flop and lead the turn was way to much pressure for my hand. I guess this is standard.

Joroy70 · #2 03-03-2007, 02:39 PM

920/7/1?? whats mean UTG here since I'm BB and not Under The gun.. (SOrry I speak french)!!!

jetsetboy · #3 03-03-2007, 02:45 PM

he is 14/7/1 instead of 920/7/1 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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whats mean UTG here since I'm BB and not Under The gun.. (SOrry I speak french)!!!

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It seems that there was a problem in the hand converter as you are actually the bb. Strange =)

Bon pour les pm on passe en français alors ?

Joroy70 · #4 03-03-2007, 05:15 PM

ouais:P

Joroy70 · #5 03-03-2007, 05:15 PM

ouais mais je recois pas de réponse!!

GiantBuddha · #6 03-03-2007, 07:12 PM

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ouais mais je recois pas de réponse!!

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Is that French for "I outplayed you, sucker?"

Joroy70 · #7 03-03-2007, 07:49 PM

no for Why you never answer my PM

Jurrr · #8 03-05-2007, 09:00 AM

Hand 1: AQ is unlikely as he should really try to get more out of you and be willing to stack off earlier. I think you find a fold there.

Hand 2: River sucks, fold.

Hand 3: I find a fold here.

modnareno · #9 03-05-2007, 09:15 AM

Those all look like good folds.