($12) Pocket pairs OOP

[Pocketbear]

=== Hand #1 ===

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t40/t80
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t2035
UTG+1: t1790
MP1: t990
MP2: t1460
MP3: t1775
CO: t1200
Button: t1425
Hero: t1360
BB: t1465

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t240</font>, 4 folds, Hero?

The villain has been limping quite a lot in previous hands, but never raising. Should I just smooth call him and re-evaluate on the flop or should I reraise? How would you play this?



=== Hand #2 ===

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t100/t200
7 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: t2710
UTG+1: t1690
MP1: t2320
CO: t1765
Button: t1000
SB: t1975
Hero: t2040

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>, UTG+1 calls t200 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises all-in t2320</font>, 3 folds, Hero?

MP1 is a decent player that might be capable of stealing, but has been very calm for some time. What would you do here? Call or fold?

[FeNeF]

#1 I jam.

#2 I fold.

Neither are very close given your information IMO.

[tozzy]

first one is an easy push.
#2 is somewhat close as a decent player is pushing here AQs aswell as TT+ (maybe 99?) and AK ofc. yet, he'd probably not push with KK+. but, youre still in a healthy shape and theres no need to gamble right now when you can use your edge later on. I'd fold.

[Oubliette]

#1 guy seems to be attempting to commit himself to the pot, id push, but i can see an argument for a call i guess.

#2 This spot is so player dependent for sure. If i were mp1 id have something like A9+, 77+, maybe even wider. I think in game i might call here getting pretty good odds on a range im ahead of. Maybe my shove range is bad here tho since im pretty shove happy against 2 limpers.

[FeNeF]

I really think we have to fold hand 2. We're pretty badly murdered against most people's ranges here. You're just not gonna see 77 or A9 often.

[flyangler]

Hand 1) Given his previous behavior, a big raise/push here is appropriate.

Hand 2) Easy fold.

[sippin_criss]

Hand 1 I always brainlessly shove everytime. Hand 2 is close but I'd shove JJ for sure there.