$16: JJ in BB facing large raise early

chaz64 · #1 03-03-2007, 05:25 PM

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1170)
UTG+1 (t1510)
MP1 (t1700)
MP2 (t1735)
MP3 (t1460)
CO (t1360)
Button (t1445)
SB (t1440)
Hero (t1680)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30, MP1 raises to t600, MP2 folds, MP3 folds, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, Hero ?

I hate having to push a hand like this so early. The raise seems too big to be AA or KK. What's your play here?

Bedz · #2 03-03-2007, 05:35 PM

I have seen this move before, and I think he has AK a lot of times here. Read?

chaz64 · #3 03-03-2007, 05:45 PM

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I have seen this move before, and I think he has AK a lot of times here. Read?

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We had only played 10 hands up to this point. First hand he min-raised, everyone folded. He also pushed PF with two limpers and a raiser in front once, they folded. On another hand he pushed on the flop, got 3 to fold.

Bedz · #4 03-03-2007, 05:49 PM

Then I think It is an easy push. A lot of the time you are up against AK, but you often have him beat.

sippin_criss · #5 03-03-2007, 05:51 PM

Given that read I'd shove even though I'd still probably just shove it anyways.

flyangler · #6 03-03-2007, 06:22 PM

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Then I think It is an easy push. A lot of the time you are up against AK, but you often have him beat.

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Actually, I believe you have him beat preflop.
I've even lost to 22 when I had AK once! [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
(JK of course)

I'd push.

Finnisher · #7 03-04-2007, 03:55 AM

Readless I'd fold. I just shoved QQ into a raise like this the other day and villain had KK. Tilted donks don't want to be sucked out on so they raise big with AA/KK/QQ. Or it could be JJ/TT. Or AK. JJ isn't too hot against that range.

With this guy I'd push, I think his range is wider and could be AJ or some smaller pairs.

Kevin8423 · #8 03-04-2007, 04:00 AM

Yeah I tend to shove over people who bet insane amounts preflop if I have something like JJ. Especially in this situation where hes being playing like a maniac.

chaz64 · #9 03-04-2007, 12:21 PM

Thanks for the responses. For anyone curious, I pushed, he called with A7o.

I love these people. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]