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Old 03-03-2007, 08:51 AM
HOWMANY HOWMANY is offline
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Default Is this even profitable? Simple preflop

22 in the cutoff. Button is EXTREMELY tight (Saleem). Unfortunately small blind and big blind are extremely loose. Small is capable of folding bad hands. Big hates folding his blind, especially to me. He also seems to be on complete life tilt for the past three weeks or so and his face is literally red today. Both players are pretty easy to play against in position. In other words I'm almost guaranteed the button, but I have about a 0% chance of taking the blinds right away. Profitable?
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:56 AM
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22 in the cutoff. Button is EXTREMELY tight (Saleem). Unfortunately small blind and big blind are extremely loose. Small is capable of folding bad hands. Big hates folding his blind, especially to me. He also seems to be on complete life tilt for the past three weeks or so and his face is literally red today. Both players are pretty easy to play against in position. In other words I'm almost guaranteed the button, but I have about a 0% chance of taking the blinds right away. Profitable?

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So wait, is it folded to you and you're thinking of open-raising? I am confused.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:02 AM
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I think playing 22 against the blinds who are capable of making loose calls against a blind stealer tends to be pretty tough, especially if they play well post-flop. If they play very straightforward on the flop I'll definitely steal it, but if they're tricky and will raise and stuff I rather just let it go. There are some players who ALWAYS raise on the flop against a blind stealer(me) which means I have to play slightly better hands against them to recoup some equity.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:13 AM
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Yeah, sorry. Folds to me in the CO. I feel like 22-33 in late position get me into way too much trouble both online and live, and I'm trying to figure out whether I'm playing them bad when I do choose to play them, or if I'm just plain making a mistake by playing them in the first place.
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Old 03-03-2007, 09:28 AM
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Fold. Need to have a fighting chance at stealing the blinds preflop to play.

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Old 03-03-2007, 11:35 AM
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about 6 months ago I started patching this leak. Prior to this I would open raise and start the guessing game.

This scenerio I fold 22-33 almost always now.

I am saving bets doing so.

only against tight blinds i'm opening with them now.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: Is this even profitable? Simple preflop

same scenario J/10S what's the default
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:44 AM
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same scenario J/10S what's the default

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I'm no limit player at all, but I would be shocked if any of the regulars here advocated folding JTs.
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Old 03-03-2007, 11:57 AM
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I fold small pp's against loose blinds there.
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Old 03-03-2007, 12:19 PM
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same scenario J/10S what's the default

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22 is going in the muck but JT is going uptown so quick it isn't funny and it doesn't matter one bit if it is suited or not.
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