200NL Dont CBet me!

Womble · #1 03-03-2007, 07:51 AM

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saw flop|saw showdown

UTG ($250.32)
MP ($203)
CO ($223.90)
Button ($197)
Hero ($208)
BB ($339.28)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
2 folds, CO raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $6, 1 fold.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $12, Hero raises to $38, CO calls $26.

Turn: ($92) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $60

Villain is quite aggresive from what I have seen. Never limped PF and hasnt got to showdown yet either. Something like 25/25.

His range on the flop is likely overcards so and I cold simply call his bet which I would do with higher pairs but with 44 I dont particularly want to see the turn. Hence the raise.

I have read a lot about planning your future plays at the start so is C/R flop and then turn bet good here? All being said that turn is a pretty nice card for me but what about an A/K or Q?

Should I even get to the turn here?

DJ Sensei · #2 03-03-2007, 08:00 AM

calling 44 here out of position in a shorthanded game is trouble. the few times you make your set are not going to be enough to get value for the times you dont, since you have [censored] implied odds.

and when you dont get a set you're in [censored] position to win the pot through other means.

Jiggle-Billy · #3 03-03-2007, 08:35 AM

your pair is probably not good because its so small and he bet the flop he probably has an over pair

let_me_pay · #4 03-03-2007, 08:39 AM

The eight is a very good card on the turn for you, the only thing he now can beat with a overpair is a pure bluff (which you have so i think you have alot of FE with that turn bet. If a A, K, Q or jack falls on the turn you should probably slow down though couse only thing he will fold in that case is TT and 99.

killphilNI · #5 03-03-2007, 08:42 AM

If he's 25/25 a pf reraise is in order

willw9 · #6 03-03-2007, 11:47 AM

Yea, definetely repop preflop here. Also, your flop c/r is too small. Make it a solid $45-$50.

Worm75 · #7 03-03-2007, 12:15 PM

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your pair is probably not good because its so small and he bet the flop he probably has an over pair

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WTF???? There is nothing in this bet that says this guy has an overpair by betting the flop!!! Hell this is almost a perfect flop for your small pair when you don't hit the flop, and with the villain having the stats that he has, he is c-betting this flop heads up in position every thime no matter what 2 cards this guy has.

As played, Bump the C/R up a little more on the flop, and then lead for about 2/3 pot on the turn.

n1nj4.br · #8 03-03-2007, 12:18 PM

8-Q-K-A are the best turns to keep bluffing.

Shoot59 · #9 03-03-2007, 02:20 PM

I hate trying to float/take the pot away when I am OOP. Not sure if its worth the risk after you miss your set on the flop.

orange · #10 03-03-2007, 02:24 PM

i like it.

also, pf is whatever. rr is probably better, but i know i'm guilty of calling here alot too.