How much do you loosen up in fish games?

[brainfreeze0]

From what I've heard they will stop calling if they see you play too tight PF, so my question is after reading Sklansky's book on PF hands how far outside the box do you go to make sure you still get the loose action? Do you showdown a trash hand to let them see or how do you work this scenario?

[MicroMac]

Fish do not pay attention to what hands you are playing. They will almost always give you action.

With that being said, the value of suited connectors goes up in a loose game with lots of preflop callers. Of course, I would not consider 76s to be a "trash" hand.

[brainfreeze0]

I figured the same thing but another guy said it happened to him....as well I remember the last time I was playing there was one huy who very rarely eplayed and I remmeber when he did play the first time he bet I folded instantly cuz he was so tight and the other guy folded as well....this is prior to reading Sklansky so now I know better then to play anything but the point still remains....as a fish I noticed this and was quick to fold when he bet..

[_TKO_]

Against really bad players, you can still win by playing tight. However, loosening up with hands that have the potential to win big pots (suited connectors, suited aces, pairs) can increase your profits. If the game is passive, limp along with the crowd with these types of hands. Play more hands in late position, and fewer unsuited cards in early position. In general, loosen up with suited cards.

For loose fixed limit games, I would recommend a book like SSHE.

[brainfreeze0]

Funny that u mention that cuz im in the midst of readingg it.... I'm on the section about small and large pots so I guess I will get to that section soon...

[_TKO_]

Just remember that the book is geared towards games like live 2/4 and 3/6, or online 0.10/0.20. Still, the advice has helped me incredibly for spotting opportunities at other limits. Consider your opponents before applying the tactics.

[Shoot59]

This advice is for NO LIMIT only

The worse the level of skill is in a game, the more I will loosen up, especially in position. I want to play as many hands in position against bad players as possible, even if that means limping with junk. These small "mistakes" are more then compensated for by the fact that you will be able to:
1)Extract maximum value when you do hit your hand
2)Control the pot size and get to showdown cheap on your marginal holdings
3)Know when you can bluff an opponent off a better hand

[swingdoc]

I assume OP is referring to one of my previous posts. Let me just clarify. I was referring to LIVE NL play. Fish playing live will certainly notice that you are playing much tighter than the average player. Internet opponents are less likely to do this as even fish multitable or surf the web, etc while playing and are thus paying less attention to the game than the ones in live games. Otherwise I completely agree with Shoot59's post.

[lucky_mf]

In NL you probably want to tighten up your raising requirements (from early positoins especially). If you raise PF and don't hit the flop your out of position (with multiple fish acting behind) without a made hand hand, and almost no chance to win the pot by bluffing.

Lucky

[brainfreeze0]

Heh I was refferring to your other post...thanks for the input everyone...: )