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Old 03-02-2007, 01:22 PM
crippled foe crippled foe is offline
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Default value bet on a four flush here?

villian is 70/4.3/.35 over 70. he has seen me fold on a couple of donk bets before, probably why he donks on turn here. but on the other hand he has check raised me numerous times before. with that considered, is this an easy river bet for value?

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO (poster) calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: (4.70 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

River: (6.70 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero [????] checks.

Final Pot: 6.70 BB
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Old 03-02-2007, 01:28 PM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: value bet on a four flush here?

Were his c/r'es justified? He seems to be afraid of the 4flush; however, an AF of .35 is very passive. So I'd tend to believe his raises. I'd check behind - and prepare to lose to some baby flush, or anything 2pr or better.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: value bet on a four flush here?

Where is the turn raise ?
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:40 PM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: value bet on a four flush here?

Nevermind - was still thinking about the c/r OP talked about. Still - same applies to donks. They don't do this with nothing
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:36 PM
nerdking nerdking is offline
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Default Re: value bet on a four flush here?

grunch.

raise the turn to see where you're at. if villain 3bangs you know you're looking at something he likes and this makes the river decision easier.

as played check behind on the river. BB could be setting up a checkraise with any old club.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:43 PM
Aaron W. Aaron W. is offline
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Default Re: value bet on a four flush here?

Raise the turn. Most of the time, he doesn't have a made flush and your hand is good.
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Old 03-02-2007, 05:40 PM
ciro bonano ciro bonano is offline
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Default Re: value bet on a four flush here?

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Raise the turn. Most of the time, he doesn't have a made flush and your hand is good.

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Is a guy with such a low AF likely to donk his Kx here?
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