easy call or easy fold

Sessna · #1 03-02-2007, 07:08 AM

this is from a 3 dollar stars mtt. 90 left all itm. I am not paying attention to any of the play (multi tabling), but at this level its pretty bad. What do you do here

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t17247)
BB (t3445)
UTG (t14070)
UTG+1 (t7295)
MP1 (t4030)
MP2 (t21930)
Hero (t11326)
CO (t1375)
Button (t5520)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, MP2 calls t400, Hero raises to t1500, 2 folds, SB calls t1300, BB calls t1100, MP2 calls t1100.

Flop: (t5600) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets t1920 (All-In), MP2 calls t1920, Hero

Pondy · #2 03-02-2007, 07:11 AM

Fold. I would expect to see someone turn over A7 or 77.

Your PF raise is to small. Raise 4xBB + 1 for every limper. So approx 2000 or more. I would of stuck in 2400K

QuattroFour4 · #3 03-02-2007, 07:28 AM

BB is extremely short stacked once the flop comes (only t1920 chips? that's hardly anything), so I wouldn't see his all-in as a sign of 77 or A7 or any hand that beats you. The only thing that concerns me at all is MP2's call, but I'm definitely calling this tiny bet to see what MP2 does on the turn, plus you may very well have the best hand at this point, as MP2 will make this call a good portion of the time with AX (X not K or 7). This is a definite call.

Pondy · #4 03-02-2007, 07:38 AM

The thing that concerns me is the MP2 call. He's already seen you raise pf, and now he's calling an all in, with Hero still to act. If he had Ax (x not being K or 7) surely he would push in order to isolate. By just calling with Hero yet to act seems he doesn't mind Hero still being in the pot, or even wanting Hero to push.

Soulman · #5 03-02-2007, 08:08 AM

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The thing that concerns me is the MP2 call. He's already seen you raise pf, and now he's calling an all in, with Hero still to act. If he had Ax (x not being K or 7) surely he would push in order to isolate. By just calling with Hero yet to act seems he doesn't mind Hero still being in the pot, or even wanting Hero to push.

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Dude, this is a $3 [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

rapsu · #6 03-02-2007, 08:24 AM

yeah I thought the same too...it is $3 mtt, these guys dont know to think something like that. He could easily have called him with A8. I would also might have called the BB:s call with A8 because BB is short stacked and could have moved with anything, and the hero could have raised with pairs range 88-JJ and now is throwing his hand away because of two overcards and one caller with ace junk. But I wouldn´t raise here, there isn´t possible draws that they would call with so MP2 is going to call your raise on flop pretty sure only bigger hand than yours. I dont think your pf raise is too small, I think it depends on the read of the table into which kind of raises players are folding but I usually raise 3xbb+limper. Anyway I would call the BB:s all in and try to check down the hand with MP2.

Dromar · #7 03-02-2007, 08:30 AM

Nobody thinks MP2 would call a push with AJ or AT?

I'm definitely not folding here, and considering a push.

bluefish · #8 03-02-2007, 08:30 AM

id say that you have about 5:1 odds on calling, so call

Sessna · #9 03-02-2007, 11:09 AM

thanks for the replies. FYI BB pushed with A10 then called by K3o and I called with AQ and player behind me called with J10. turn and river were checked and I scooped the pot.
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Pondy · #10 03-02-2007, 11:15 AM

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BB pushed with A10 then called by K3o

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LOL.

Soulman - I did indeed miss the fact that it was a $3 tourney!!!