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#1
03-01-2007, 08:50 PM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
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Check/raise "pure" bluffing low flops against good, aggressive players is an exercise in futility. You're better off check/raising a flop containing one lone big card. In your example, I'd check the turn hoping for a free card, but if he bet, I'd check/raise him again. [/ QUOTE ] as long as you're c'ring w/ a wide range there then yes. i know i c'r tons but dont forget about the value you get from betting out on Q53rb type flops. this includes w/ a 3/5/q etc. at reasonable frequencies. the combination makes you difficult to play against and you end up getting folds and free cards more than you deserve. Barron 
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#3
03-02-2007, 07:04 AM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
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C/R cause you have a flush draw obv [/ QUOTE ] Really? I don't like it, undless you have two decent overs (which means the possibility of having the best hand). You're just not going to get better overs to lay down and the hand could easily become very messy on later streets when you miss. Just as DcifrThs' line can be scary, so can a check/call if you're a threat to c/r the turn a lot. Check/raises on the flop with draws (I think) are becoming way too transparent and easy to exploit these days. At least in many of the games I play.
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#4
03-02-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
Ok sorry about not giving you guys enough information. the button raises on the button and let's say he is a tight player and I call the raise with something like suited connector or even a one gaper.
The flop looks rainbow with something like 8, 5, 2 and i put him on two paints with ACE so i C/R and the turn is an A,K,Q,J,T Do I check here or bet out?
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#5
03-02-2007, 07:56 PM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
That's the point. Once you c/r the flop, you have to follow through on the turn. This is why I don't like check/raising low flops unless I have good reason to continue in the hand. You are neglecting to say how the flop fits your hand, so I'm assuming you missed or don't have much. This is why I don't like a c/r.
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#6
03-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
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The flop looks rainbow with something like 8, 5, 2 and i put him on two paints with ACE so i C/R and the turn is an A,K,Q,J,T [/ QUOTE ] two paints with an ace? Is the ace painted pretty? Or are we playing crazy pineapple?
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#7
03-02-2007, 08:08 PM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
No, really this is a good post.
I assume we caught no pair on the flop The button is going to raise that turn very often, especially an ace, to represent and we can't do anything about it. although, I know I do continue the caper and bet out the turn just about always
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#8
03-05-2007, 04:10 AM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
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[ QUOTE ] The flop looks rainbow with something like 8, 5, 2 and i put him on two paints with ACE so i C/R and the turn is an A,K,Q,J,T [/ QUOTE ] two paints with an ace? Is the ace painted pretty? Or are we playing crazy pineapple? [/ QUOTE ] I think we need a setup.
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#10
03-14-2007, 09:21 AM
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Re: high limit flop bluff
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[ QUOTE ] C/R cause you have a flush draw obv [/ QUOTE ] Really? I don't like it, undless you have two decent overs (which means the possibility of having the best hand). You're just not going to get better overs to lay down and the hand could easily become very messy on later streets when you miss. Just as DcifrThs' line can be scary, so can a check/call if you're a threat to c/r the turn a lot. Check/raises on the flop with draws (I think) are becoming way too transparent and easy to exploit these days. At least in many of the games I play. [/ QUOTE ] I agree.
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