What is my "calling a raise preflop" range ?

[jetsetboy]

I'm trying to make the switch from 6max to Fr and I got serious leaks in my pf game.

Let say you are at a 5 handed table. Here is the situation at a NL200 table:
UTG is a solid TAG regular running 22/18/3 ($400+)
CO is a horrible loose passive preflop agro postflop player running 65/10/2 with $160. He is the reason why you are sitting at this table.
You are on the button with $200 to $400
SB is a weak/tight player running 15/9/1.5 with $200
BB is another good tag player running 18/16/4 with $200

Yesterday at least 3 of the 8 tables I was playing looked like that.

Preflop action :
UTG raises to $7
CO folds
Hero ?

With what kind of hand do you call here ?

Most of the time I fold. When I don't fold I 3bet here. I can 3bet any pp, SCs, AQo+, AJs+, some good suited one gappers (J9s). If I feel that my FE is low I usually simply fold most of them except pp. I sometimes calls with pp/SCs. The deeper we are the more likely I am to 3bet light. When I call to "mix it up", I really don't undestand what i'm mixing up as i'm only calling with "drawing hands" like SCs or pp. Should I "mix it up" sometimes calling with QQ or AKs in this position ? Of course most of the time the raising range of UTG is too wide to offer me good implied odds. When I'm calling with pp i'm likely to be a favorite and to be able to float, but then i'm offering terrific good odds to SB/BB to come for the ride and won't be able to play unless I hit my set. Of course from time to time I'll be able to steal a pot on the flop or the turn if it's a 3 way using my position but I don't feel like I'm "calling for value" if that means something.

I hate to call with likely dominated hands like KJo even with pos. I'm coming from gey land and that's a big mistake there. Thus if I called preflop an observative vilain might know on a flop like Q72r that I never got the Q and thus that I have an underpair/midpair or a set when I'm calling his C-bet. It seems to me that I'm quite easy to exploit with this kind of read. Firing a second barrel on the turn is likely to make me fold. A check with TPMK/JJ/TT from the vilain is also a good way to exploit it.

A long time ago I've seen in a post in MSNL/HSNL where somebody said that he was calling with low suited aces quite often in position... Sounds ok to you to call here with A2s (instead of folding/3betting) ?

[kolotoure]

If his range is really wide why don't you call and take the pot on the flop/turn?

[jetsetboy]

Because I will not allways be able to take it, because calling a cbet on the flop is just a little bit cheaper than a reraise preflop and won't allow him to see if he can hit the flop: he raised $7, I reraise to $24 compared to I call for 7$ and call his cbet for another $12-$15. When he calls the reraise I still have pos+agression and can still win the pot UI...

When I was saying a "wide" raising range preflop, I meant compared to FR raising range : so I was thinking about a range like AJo+/Axs/KQo/SCs/pp for his raising range.

[Avicenna]

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I'm trying to make the switch from 6max to Fr

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You mean from FR to 6max?

Personnaly I cold-call with PP's if the original raiser is over-playing, if there are other callers, or if it will induce a call from the blinds. The point is set farming of course.
Sometimes medium-big SC's in position if the original raiser is weak, or if the pot can get multi-way without getting re-raised.

But as a general rule I don't like cold-calling.
I wouldn't call with Axs: not enough flush potential and dominated when it hits.

Your 3-bet range is quite wide, in my opinion. But I must revise my own game regarding this, as I'm only 3-betting AK, AQs, JJ+.. and not always.
As an exception, I'm 3-betting lightly min-raises, in an attempt to "correct" those guys.

[mikechops]

Building a big pot pre-flop with pp's and sc's destroys the implied odds these hands have. Even if you miss, you can still win the pot by floating on flops that likely missed him.

[.KeviN.]

why is light-3betting a TAG's UTG raise a good play?

[Better Than U]

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What is my "calling a raise preflop" range ?

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Sounds like a jeopardy answer.

[cbboy]

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What is my "calling a raise preflop" range ?

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Sounds like a jeopardy answer.

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I lol'd at that. I think its the fact that he is opening with a wide enough range that he is folding to a 3-bet most of the time because the stacks aren't deep and he will be out of position.