200NL - 4-bet bluff got me in trouble.

skegvegaspoker · #1 03-01-2007, 08:50 AM

Villain is a good TAG.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB ($198)
BB ($244.55)
Hero ($546.58)
MP ($510.85)
Button ($274.95)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, Button raises to $23, 2 folds, Hero raises to $65, Button calls $42.

 Villain has been 3-betting me light, so I 4-bet bluff

Flop: ($133) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

 But I flop something. However, after calling, I think villain's range is JJ+, AK and decide to try and get value on later streets from villain on those hands that I'm ahead of, in particular AK.

Turn: ($133) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

 Worse card in the deck. A little intrigued by his check behind though. 

River: ($133) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $100

 I only beat a K and he's not betting that on the river here is he? Especially not after the board pairs. What am I 4-betting preflop that he beats. Nothing. Therefore, standard fold here, right?

Spartak · #2 03-01-2007, 09:08 AM

You should bet flop and get called by AK and I think you have to call river as played as he could easily be bluffing after all this checking.

skegvegaspoker · #3 03-01-2007, 09:12 AM

What could he be bluffing with?

Dan Bitel · #4 03-01-2007, 09:28 AM

no dude, i don't fold river, thats for sure. The only hand that beats us that makes sence really is QQ (mayybe AA checks flop). And I really think that given how you played the hand, he could bet a king for value

Also, I bet the flop, inducing bluffs in 4bet pots is redic.

terp · #5 03-01-2007, 10:38 AM

zzz call zzzzzz

uminchu · #6 03-01-2007, 10:43 AM

dont you beat KK here as well which he will of course bet after confusing you on the turn by checking

Kilillan · #7 03-01-2007, 10:45 AM

I think AK makes up a huge part of his range

I would be tempted to lead river, but since he's almost always going to bet a king there anyway this is fine

skegvegaspoker · #8 03-01-2007, 11:28 AM

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Also, I bet the flop, inducing bluffs in 4bet pots is redic.

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I don't understand. If I had a K in his position I dont think I'd fire out a $100 river bet for value. Is that wrong?