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Old 02-16-2006, 12:58 PM
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Pre-flop: Hero is MP1 with A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero Raises, 1 folded, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.5 sb) J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
BB Checks, Hero Bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero 3 bets, CO calls

Turn (6.25 BB) K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero Bets, CO raises, Hero 3 bets, CO Calls Not so sure about the three bet but I figured I was still ahead.

River (12.25 BB) J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero Checks, CO bets, Hero Calls

Final Pot 14.25 BB
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:04 PM
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Wow. I'm don't [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] the turn 3-bet. I also don't love calling on the river when the flush comes in after Villan pulls a SNG on you on a coordinated board.

Without a read, I think you have to call the turn raise and check-fold the river. All you're ahead of that would be played this way is K5/K3/53, and unless he's HUGELY loose preflop, he's not holding those hands. I suppose he might be uber-aggro postflop, but you didn't give us a read.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:10 PM
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You would fold this 13 BB river? Sure the board is coordinated but it is a runner runner. I only have to be right 8% of the time to make a call here yes?

I think AK, KQ are also hands he might have
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:10 PM
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Default Re: Boring AA hand

A read on CO would be nice.

If he's aggressive, a 3-bet on the turn is almost certainly correct. If not, then I would have to start giving KJ some serious possibility, and I might just call down.

I think the river check/call is correct - he almost never has the flush, but that J is not a card you wanted to see. If he just has a J and overplayed the turn, you're now behind.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:11 PM
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I think 3 betting the turn is pretty bad. I also think folding the river would be pretty bad.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:13 PM
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That was my worry that he had a J
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:25 PM
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Yeeaah folding this river is #¤%"#%"#%¤%"%-stupid.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:27 PM
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You would fold this 13 BB river? Sure the board is coordinated but it is a runner runner. I only have to be right 8% of the time to make a call here yes?

I think AK, KQ are also hands he might have

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He smooth-called preflop. He raised the J-high flop, but just called your 3-bet. He donkraised the K on the turn that put 2 to a flush on the board and again just called your 3-bet. What range do you put him on?

Against an unknown, my range is J-plus-any-card-over-ten/any-two-[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]/K-plus-something. Of that range, the hands you beat are an overwhelming minority. Looking at it again, I think a better river line would be bet/fold. You're ahead of a bare king, or something odd like K5/K3, but he shouldn't be raising that against a paired/flushed board.
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:34 PM
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Now that you mention it I like the idea of a bet/fold.

So you think a simple bet/call on the turn and then a bet/fold on the river is best?
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Old 02-16-2006, 01:35 PM
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Yeeaah folding this river is #¤%"#%"#%¤%"%-stupid.

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So, how many times DOES Villan need to SNG you before you figure out that he's got a better hand than yours?
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