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Old 02-27-2007, 05:45 AM
SwedishMedusah SwedishMedusah is offline
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

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I would say AQ is his most likely hand.. another vote for call.

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Betting into the raiser w AQ makes it pretty easy to fold worse hands and call w better hands, I don't think AQ is a very large part of his range here.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:53 AM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

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I would say AQ is his most likely hand.. another vote for call.

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Betting into the raiser w AQ makes it pretty easy to fold worse hands and call w better hands, I don't think AQ is a very large part of his range here.

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Why are we assuming he won't do it just because it's bad play?
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:25 AM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

I go broke too, 50 hands is nothing.
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Old 02-27-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

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I would say AQ is his most likely hand.. another vote for call.

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Betting into the raiser w AQ makes it pretty easy to fold worse hands and call w better hands, I don't think AQ is a very large part of his range here.

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Why are we assuming he won't do it just because it's bad play?

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Of course he can do it. I am just saying that, without a read, we shouldn't assume that AQ is his most likely holding when weighting his range.
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Old 02-27-2007, 08:01 AM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

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I go broke too, 50 hands is nothing.

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I don't wanna come off as defensive or anything, but are the tight stats really a necessity to make this fold? When someone with just close to reasonable stats cold calls OOP preflop against a raise and a reraise, I very very rarely get shown worse than JJ/AQ and even that range needs to be weighted more towards QQ+.
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Old 02-27-2007, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

This is a definite call and possibly a push if you are familiar with the player. I think he has something like AJs or JTs more often than QQ or AA which would have most likely reraised preflop, plus if he does have a set you got a backdoor flush possibility so call and re evaluate
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:25 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

15/7 isn't very meaningful over 50 hands. certainly not meaningful enough to fold for one bet here.
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Old 02-27-2007, 04:39 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

I would be very tempted to fold, but likely still call.

I think pushing/rasing is bad.
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Old 02-27-2007, 05:19 PM
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Default Re: 2/4: I have an overpair in position - better fold...

this is such a [censored] spot. the range i put him on is AA,QQ, and a small chance that it's AQ. i doubt AQ leads out like. that. very tough and close decision, but i think you made the correct one.
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