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02-26-2007, 05:16 PM
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Re: The \"Lining up jobs\" Thread, 2007
"but I just really really suck at interviewing--to the point that they don't care about me looking pretty much perfect on paper. I hate talking to random people about myself, esepcially when I secretly think their company is full of crap and I'll despise my job."
I wouldn't bother going to the interviews if that's the attitude you're going to bring. I was in a similar boat when I graduated: perfect on paper but not at all thrilled about the prospect of working for these bs companies. Then I thought about it from their perspective. This guy has the credentials to work anywhere he wants, he's just gonna leave us as soon as he finds a better deal. You have to convince them that you're stoked about working for them and it helps a lot if that's actually true. 
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02-26-2007, 11:42 PM
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Re: The \"Lining up jobs\" Thread, 2007
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"but I just really really suck at interviewing--to the point that they don't care about me looking pretty much perfect on paper. I hate talking to random people about myself, esepcially when I secretly think their company is full of crap and I'll despise my job." I wouldn't bother going to the interviews if that's the attitude you're going to bring. I was in a similar boat when I graduated: perfect on paper but not at all thrilled about the prospect of working for these bs companies. Then I thought about it from their perspective. This guy has the credentials to work anywhere he wants, he's just gonna leave us as soon as he finds a better deal. You have to convince them that you're stoked about working for them and it helps a lot if that's actually true. [/ QUOTE ] Thanks for the advice, and I also get the "what's the point if it's obvious I don't even want this" feeling. Now I'm basically sick of having to deal with all this crap and feel like blowing off the whole job hunt thing as a whole. I'm currently pwning my combinatorics class, though. Math grad school here I come?
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02-27-2007, 12:25 AM
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Re: The \"Lining up jobs\" Thread, 2007
I've passed Exam P and Exam FM and I'll be starting with a somewhat large actuarial consulting firm in Chicago in June. I interned last summer with Mercer, probably the largest act. consulting firm, got some good experience there. Anyone who has any questions let me know (note: if you're coming out of school with only one exam I wouldn't hold your breath on still getting a job by summer, most summer starts already interviewed...there's a few positions that always come open, but not so many for entry-level.)
Omaha, Why would you want to go from management consulting to actuarial work? As long as you're talking about a legit MC firm such as McKinsey, Bain, BCG, Mercer, IBM, Deloitte, Accenture, etc. you aren't going to want to move into Actuarial from here..you can get into top B-school and go anywhere you want. With the 4.0(unless your school sucks) you should get interviews here(well, not if you're a senior..they're all already done hiring. I'm pretty sure that if you didn't know this by now, though, you aren't a very serious candidate.) However the actuarial consulting areas are much more defined and less BS oriented, i'm going into Health and Benefits, which should be a great career. You'll have a lot of options later, but the thing is, exam-passing is what keeps the $ raises coming. kbinder--i agree with your statement. no reason for math grad school unless you have a defined reason. TFA is an absolutely horrible idea. The program is designed so when you, the high-achieving student, get your high-achieving paycheck later in life; you will want to help out the public school systems. Also, imagine if a TFA alum becomes a politician..they will change the system. This is what the program is for: NOT for helping the individual schools out, they are way too underfunded for that.
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02-27-2007, 01:43 AM
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Re: The \"Lining up jobs\" Thread, 2007
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Math grad school here I come? [/ QUOTE ] what do you plan on doing with the math degree? [/ QUOTE ] Getting a good finance job. [/ QUOTE ] heh, my plans exactly. unfortunately, a general master's program in math isn't going to train you to do cool stuff with finance (unless it's a specialized program), but companies will still hire you because they value your thinking skills.
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02-27-2007, 01:58 AM
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Re: The \"Lining up jobs\" Thread, 2007
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Math grad school here I come? [/ QUOTE ] what do you plan on doing with the math degree? [/ QUOTE ] Getting a good finance job. [/ QUOTE ] Quite possibly same here. I really like math finance--I've studied it independently, although I can't derive black-scholes (sp) or anything. And I wasn't really being too serious about math grad school anyways--it's just want I might like to do. skeetshooter--you think someone from UGA actually has a shot at McKinsey, etc? I haven't even gotten that much interest from lower-level consulting companies. I like math and probability a lot--I post in the probability forum all the time--and I can see the actual value actuaries have to society. Management consultants? Not so much... I guess it's a moot point since I haven't interviewed for the top-tier or submitted a resume or anything. I kind of took the hint when they didn't make any sort of recruitment effort at my school whatsoever--not even an online resume drop.
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