Neverwin on 100/200 6-max early this morning (Feb 15)

[JohnnyHumongous]

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so whats his screenname?

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neverwinowns

[Dan BRIGHT]

I saw his stats , deduced he was a huge lagfish and got a good seat by him. He ran hot as [censored] against me, I dropped a buy in, and left to avoid inevitable tilt. 4-7o > AA

[PokerMike]

***** Hand History for Game 3557932520 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 07:43:52 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $11565.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $37195.36 )
Seat 4: MrCepe ( $5879 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $5675 )
Seat 6: crabway ( $6119 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $5395 )
neverwinowns posts small blind [$50].
chawinski3 posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ 4d 6d ]
MrCepe raises [$200].
Profesoren folds.
crabway folds.
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.
kbh04 folds.
neverwinowns raises [$250].
chawinski3 folds.
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.
MrCepe calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8d, Td, 7d ]
neverwinowns bets [$100].
MrCepe raises [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
neverwinowns checks.
MrCepe bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
neverwinowns checks.
MrCepe bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
MrCepe shows [ 9d, Ad ] a straight flush, jack high.
neverwinowns doesn't show [ 2h, 2c ] a flush, jack high.
MrCepe wins $1895 from the main pot with a straight flush, jack high.
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.

***** Hand History for Game 3558008159 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 08:36:13 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $6191.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $35014.36 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $8333.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $4741 )
Seat 6: TAKEITALL996 ( $1795 )
Seat 4: O_V_C_A_13 ( $9900 )
O_V_C_A_13 posts small blind [$50].
Profesoren posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ Kc 3h ]
TAKEITALL996 folds.
kbh04 folds.
>You have options at Table 67048 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
neverwinowns raises [$200].
chawinski3 folds.
O_V_C_A_13 raises [$250].
Profesoren calls [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7s, Kd, 6s ]
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
O_V_C_A_13 bets [$100].
Profesoren folds.
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Qs ]
O_V_C_A_13 bets [$200].
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
neverwinowns calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ 9d ]
O_V_C_A_13 checks.
neverwinowns checks.
O_V_C_A_13 shows [ 5h, 5d ] a pair of fives.
neverwinowns doesn't show [ 4d, 4h ] a pair of fours.
O_V_C_A_13 wins $1495 from the main pot with a pair of fives.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.

***** Hand History for Game 3557989284 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 08:23:15 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $7350.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $35149.36 )
Seat 4: MrCepe ( $6325 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $6148.50 )
Seat 6: crabway ( $13145.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $3425.50 )
Profesoren posts small blind [$50].
crabway posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ Ac 4h ]
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
kbh04 folds.
neverwinowns raises [$200].
>You have options at Table 66820 Table!.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
chawinski3 raises [$300].
MrCepe folds.
Profesoren folds.
crabway folds.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Qc, 7d, 8c ]
neverwinowns checks.
>You have options at Table 67048 Table!.
chawinski3 bets [$100].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ Jc ]
neverwinowns checks.
chawinski3 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
neverwinowns bets [$200].
>You have options at Table 66820 Table!.
chawinski3 calls [$200].
neverwinowns shows [ 4c, 5s ] high card king.
chawinski3 shows [ Ac, 4h ] high card ace.
chawinski3 wins $1345 from the main pot with high card ace.

***** Hand History for Game 3558001598 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 08:31:45 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $7046.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $35079.36 )
Seat 4: MrCepe ( $5415 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $5693.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $6196 )
kbh04 posts small blind [$50].
neverwinowns posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ 2h 8d ]
>You have options at Table 64775 Table!.
chawinski3 folds.
MrCepe folds.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
TAKEITALL996 has joined the table.
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
Profesoren folds.
kbh04 raises [$150].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, 2d, 6d ]
kbh04 bets [$100].
neverwinowns raises [$200].
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.
kbh04 calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.
kbh04 checks.
neverwinowns checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
kbh04 checks.
neverwinowns bets [$200].
kbh04 calls [$200].
neverwinowns shows [ 5d, 7h ] a pair of sixes.
kbh04 shows [ Ac, 7s ] two pairs, aces and sixes.
kbh04 wins $1195 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and sixes.

***** Hand History for Game 3557952158 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 07:57:18 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $8705.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $36916.36 )
Seat 4: MrCepe ( $7764 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $5960 )
Seat 6: crabway ( $7894.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $4485.50 )
kbh04 posts small blind [$50].
neverwinowns posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ Kh Kd ]
chawinski3 raises [$200].
MrCepe folds.
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
Profesoren folds.
crabway folds.
kbh04 folds.
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kc, 7s, 6s ]
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.
neverwinowns checks.
chawinski3 bets [$100].
neverwinowns raises [$200].
chawinski3 raises [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
neverwinowns checks.
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
chawinski3 bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ 4h ]
neverwinowns checks.
chawinski3 bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
chawinski3 shows [ Kh, Kd ] a full house, Kings full of sixes.
neverwinowns doesn't show [ 5c, 7c ] two pairs, sevens and sixes.
chawinski3 wins $1845 from the main pot with a full house, Kings full of sixes.

***** Hand History for Game 3557950045 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 07:55:51 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $8160.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $37666.36 )
Seat 4: MrCepe ( $7814 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $6610 )
Seat 6: crabway ( $6999.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $4485.50 )
MrCepe posts small blind [$50].
Profesoren posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ 2c 5h ]
crabway raises [$200].
kbh04 folds.
neverwinowns raises [$300].
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.
chawinski3 folds.
MrCepe folds.
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.
>You have options at Table 66820 Table!.
Profesoren folds.
crabway calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 7h, Ac ]
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
crabway checks.
neverwinowns bets [$100].
crabway raises [$200].
neverwinowns raises [$200].
crabway raises [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6s ]
crabway bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
crabway checks.
neverwinowns checks.
crabway shows [ Ks, Ad ] a pair of aces.
neverwinowns doesn't show [ 9c, 9h ] a pair of nines.
crabway wins $1945 from the main pot with a pair of aces.
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.

***** Hand History for Game 3558004901 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 08:33:58 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $7341.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $34374.36 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $7288.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $5891 )
Seat 6: TAKEITALL996 ( $1100 )
Seat 4: O_V_C_A_13 ( $10000 )
TAKEITALL996 posts small blind [$50].
kbh04 posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ 3d 5s ]
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.
neverwinowns raises [$200].
chawinski3 folds.
Profesoren folds.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
TAKEITALL996 calls [$150].
kbh04 folds.
>You have options at Table 64775 Table!.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 8s, 9h ]
>You have options at Table 67048 Table!.
TAKEITALL996 checks.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
neverwinowns bets [$100].
TAKEITALL996 raises [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9c ]
TAKEITALL996 bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ 8d ]
TAKEITALL996 bets [$200].
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
neverwinowns calls [$200].
TAKEITALL996 shows [ Ac, Ts ] two pairs, aces and nines.
neverwinowns doesn't show [ Jd, Jc ] two pairs, jacks and nines.
TAKEITALL996 wins $1695 from the main pot with two pairs, aces and nines.
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.
>You have options at Table 85334 (6 max) Table!.

***** Hand History for Game 3557990104 *****
$100/$200 Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, February 15, 08:23:48 EDT 2006
Table Table 85306 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: kbh04 ( $7350.50 )
Seat 2: neverwinowns ( $34549.36 )
Seat 4: MrCepe ( $6325 )
Seat 5: Profesoren ( $6098.50 )
Seat 6: crabway ( $13045.50 )
Seat 3: chawinski3 ( $4170.50 )
crabway posts small blind [$50].
kbh04 posts big blind [$100].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chawinski3 [ Ac 2h ]
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.
neverwinowns raises [$200].
chawinski3 folds.
>You have options at Table 66943 Table!.
MrCepe raises [$300].
Profesoren folds.
crabway folds.
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
kbh04 folds.
neverwinowns calls [$100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, 2s, 2d ]
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
neverwinowns checks.
MrCepe bets [$100].
neverwinowns raises [$200].
>You have options at Table 65010 Table!.
MrCepe raises [$200].
neverwinowns raises [$200].
MrCepe calls [$100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5s ]
>You have options at Table 65028 Table!.
neverwinowns bets [$200].
MrCepe calls [$200].
** Dealing River ** [ Ks ]
neverwinowns checks.
MrCepe bets [$200].
neverwinowns calls [$200].
MrCepe shows [ Tc, Js ] two pairs, tens and twos.
neverwinowns doesn't show [ 3d, Ad ] a pair of twos.
MrCepe wins $2345 from the main pot with two pairs, tens and twos.
>You have options at Table 64775 Table!.
>You have options at Table 67048 Table!.

[stigmata]

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50/40 is gonna be the new 30/20 in a year. you heard it here first.

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Hey, your just trying to steal the credit from excel!!!

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Haha!!! Good to see he is still alive & well. From earlier this week:
Excel: "Hence why this forum has loosened up alot since I first bought this to there attention. "

[Azalin]

When i first played with Kingkevin i thought he was a fish. A big one you might add. When he got lucky in 3-4 hands that only helped to strengthen my view of him.. Datamining/going over some hands of his and further play with him made me avoid him. One thing i learned is that he is in fact capable of changing gears. The games he was in were fun though.

[krishan]

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When i first played with Kingkevin i thought he was a fish. A big one you might add. When he got lucky in 3-4 hands that only helped to strengthen my view of him.. Datamining/going over some hands of his and further play with him made me avoid him. One thing i learned is that he is in fact capable of changing gears. The games he was in were fun though.

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I agree. The guy is a [censored]. I still like to play with him but I haven't adjusted to him yet.

Krishan

[wheelz]

nah, i'm pretty sure kingkevin is indeed a fish. he's not completely clueless though. not all the time at least...

[krishan]

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nah, i'm pretty sure kingkevin is indeed a fish. he's not completely clueless though. not all the time at least...

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The problem is we aren't use to players with inane preflop stats having a blue postflop. I agree most of us have a long term edge against him.

Krishan

[poker1O1]

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my guess, and this is what Id assume is button capped it so he either has AK, AQ, AA, QQ or KK. just do probabilities to see which is more likely.

And since button capped it there is almost no way for him to have the flush unless its AJs. Just some common poker thought will steer the way there. If button had AA there would be more turn action, AK diamonds and AQ diamonds is impossible, so either AK or KK. just go on the numbers from there.

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I thought about this all day in class. Isn't AJ more of a possibility than we're giving him credit for. Given neverwin is playing very loose, couldn't AJ be an isolation raise?

[JohnnyHumongous]

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my guess, and this is what Id assume is button capped it so he either has AK, AQ, AA, QQ or KK. just do probabilities to see which is more likely.

And since button capped it there is almost no way for him to have the flush unless its AJs. Just some common poker thought will steer the way there. If button had AA there would be more turn action, AK diamonds and AQ diamonds is impossible, so either AK or KK. just go on the numbers from there.

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I thought about this all day in class. Isn't AJ more of a possibility than we're giving him credit for. Given neverwin is playing very loose, couldn't AJ be an isolation raise?

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Absolutely, especially because NW was capping ATo and 3-betting many subpar hands. Actually in my view JJ is even plausible in that it's an obvious cap preflop and against NW and opponent #1 a flop raise isn't even that bad just to push opponent #1 out and possibly be ahead of NW's range. When NW 3-bets the flop that doesn't at all guarantee a hand better than JJ.

But the thing about NW's play is it matched up real well to the opponent. I'm conjecturing that he had determined that the opponent wasn't capable of capping AJo or playing JJ like that on the flop... and from the play I had seen to that point this view seemed to be quite accurate.