Do you ever call here?

[Ryan2009]

Villain is 30/20 over only 20 hands or so. No reads, but he has been fairly aggressive against me in two other hands.

.15/.25 NL

I cover villain. Stacks around $25.
Preflop
HERO A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Folded to Hero on B who raises to 1
SB folds
Villain (BB) calls

Flop
8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Villain checks
HERO bets 3/4 pot
Villain raises all in

I know at these limits that sort of play is usually the nuts or close to it. But I have the nfd and the nsd. Can you find a fold? To call the push was about 1.7:1.

Thanks.

[dirtysanchez]

i fold this like never

edit: because his line is complet air/lower flushdraw/pair+FD/2pair and you have pretty great equity here vs even the stronger end of his range

[Voy Por Ustedes]

I think this is just a spot where you need to do some poker stoving and work out the EV.

Done some quick dabbling for you:

20,790 games 0.005 secs 4,158,000 games/sec

Board: 8c Jd Qc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 40.996% 40.87% 00.13% 8496 27.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 59.004% 58.87% 00.13% 12240 27.00 { JJ+, 88, QJs, JcTc, QdJh, QdJs, QhJd, QsJh }

Looks like a call if I've done that right.

[sputum]

Let's see how you do against the nuts

990 games 0.015 secs 66,000 games/sec

Board: Qc 8c Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 43.333% 43.33% 00.00% 429 0.00 { AcKc }
Hand 1: 56.667% 56.67% 00.00% 561 0.00 { Th9d }

If he has TC9C, break your mouse (still less than a 2-1 dog tho [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img])

[VPIP100]

I call this always.

[avfletch]

Sucks that the biggest drawing hand he can hold already has a straight but I'm still calling this without a second thought.

[wulfpacker21]

I always call this when playing a cash game.... tournament I'd look at the situation

[Dr_Mabuse101]

Nutflushdaw + Gutshotstraightdraw vs. only one Pockethand we are maybe drawing dead. No I never fold this.

[marvin_1935]

never fold here, you have 2 overs+nfd+gutshot to the nuts. add this to the fact that he's playing his hand like a draw . . .

[dirtysanchez]

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Nutflushdaw + Gutshotstraightdraw vs. only one Pockethand we are maybe drawing dead. No I never fold this.

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which one?