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02-25-2007, 04:47 PM
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Q 10 suited in large multiway pot
Originally posted in BBV. Want to see what you all think. Flame away.
Very loose, passive game. $3/6 Live. Most pots have been very large, so when i get Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] in middle position, i call the live straddle. I generally dont mind playing a hand like this if i know its going to be a large multiway pot. So, preflop went something like: Live straddle, call, call, call, call, 3-bet, call, Cap, call, call, call, call... 8-9 players to flop with the cap. Beautiful. Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Great... I bet my gutshot and backdoor flush and overcards. Late position raises, almost everyone calls the 2 bets, maybe one fold. This is monster pot. Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] I bet my nut straight, with straight flush redraws, ~ 4-5 ppl call. River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Haha, suckers, no one hit their diamonds. I bet, ~ 4 ppl call, pot over $150 in 3/6 not bad, ship it. comments all streets appreciated. 
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#4
02-25-2007, 05:03 PM
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Re: Q 10 suited in large multiway pot
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Is it wrong to check/call this flop and then see what develops on the turn and river? [/ QUOTE ] betting is for value as you probably have an equity advantage. Someone would have to pokerstove it, but I'd guess you have a pretty sizeable advantage against random hands.
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02-25-2007, 05:24 PM
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Re: Q 10 suited in large multiway pot
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my main questions were: 1) is leading out on flop standard? normally i would just check call. [/ QUOTE ] meh. the pots huge and you want people with a single bare overcard to find a fold somehow. If no one folds, you probably have an equity edge. [ QUOTE ] 2) anyone try to checkraise turn? [/ QUOTE ] No. Hopefully you get raised and can threebet.
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#7
02-25-2007, 05:26 PM
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Re: Q 10 suited in large multiway pot
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my main questions were: 1) is leading out on flop standard? normally i would just check call. 2) anyone try to checkraise turn? [/ QUOTE ] I can't answer 1 since I asked a similar question, but you can't C/R the turn, especially after describing the table as passive. I also feel that if you check-raise the turn, those who are trapped in are most definitely chasing the flush anyway, so you stand to lose a value bet or you build a huge pot you potentially lose on the river. I say just bet it for value.
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#9
02-25-2007, 05:49 PM
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Re: Q 10 suited in large multiway pot
On the turn hero has the mortal nut.
I think trying to cr the turn may be possible. The players are passive, but there are two flush draws and a straight draw out there so someone should be interested in betting. If they do bet then it depends on hero's position to them, remaining players to act, and his/her confidence level in their own hand being good. If there is the equivilant of what would have been in the pot with no cr, then a cr may get cold callers to fold. This makes the pot amount about the same but less players to catch something on the river. But this is only as I determine how the players I can not see would play, ymmv.
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#10
02-25-2007, 11:05 PM
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Re: Q 10 suited in large multiway pot
3rd-5th streets are played as I would have. Your pre-flop is bad. The straddle means you should be playing tighter, as you need to invest more best pre-flop. If I understand correctly you also had to call 2 more best on the back end, and IMHO thats just a good example why cold calling 2 bets vs a straddle with QTs is a long term losing move.
As stated earlier, good post flop play. TT [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
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