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Flush appears on turn, You make top two but raised all-in..
no real info on villain
Full Tilt Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.25/$0.50 7 players Converter Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $1</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Hero calls. Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.25, 3 players) Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets $0.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG folds, MP1 calls. Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($11.25, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $4.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises all-in $11.45</font>, Hero ????? What is my action? I check raised the flop because the preflop raise was weak, and the bet on the flop was weak as well, and I had top pair and I wanted to know where I stood. The 50c bet on the flop could've been with a flush draw, a stronger hand that was slowplayed, or it could've been with air. Comments here? (Do you call the all-in--we're getting close to 4 to 1, not enough to fill up, but we might already be the best (or we might not). Thanks |
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Re: Flush appears on turn, You make top two but raised all-in..
I fold preflop - but then I'm tight like that.
what value are you expecting to get with a hand that is often dominated - that when it flops good will make a draw most often (and usually not a draw to the nuts) - when you're OOP to TWO villains... ? as played flop is fine. if you're going to bet the turn just put the shortstack all-in you have just over a PSB left to play with. I fold the turn and kick myself for betting out - I think the turn is a c/f. You *might* be up against a weirdly played AK or AA but this is a flush/set almost always. We have at best 4 outs and nowhere close to enough odds to call. |
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Re: Flush appears on turn, You make top two but raised all-in..
Check turn, if he pushes then its a fold. You'll be amazed how many times you get to see a free river or theyll bet like $1 on the turn giving you odds to fill up.
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Re: Flush appears on turn, You make top two but raised all-in..
imo thats AA/AK if he'd a standard donk.
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Re: Flush appears on turn, You make top two but raised all-in..
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I fold preflop - but then I'm tight like that. what value are you expecting to get with a hand that is often dominated - that when it flops good will make a draw most often (and usually not a draw to the nuts) - when you're OOP to TWO villains... ? as played flop is fine. if you're going to bet the turn just put the shortstack all-in you have just over a PSB left to play with. I fold the turn and kick myself for betting out - I think the turn is a c/f. You *might* be up against a weirdly played AK or AA but this is a flush/set almost always. We have at best 4 outs and nowhere close to enough odds to call. [/ QUOTE ] You might be right about not calling preflop--I decided to call because I was getting 4.5 to 1, and although it doesn't show it, the guy had 100bb. Maybe folding is best--I'm not sure. Why not bet the turn--i.e don't show weakness? My strong action on the flop followed by a check leaves me very open to being bluffed out on the turn. By not betting, I have no information on my opponent. Why not bet and probably fold to aggression? (at least then I can feel more confident that I'm not being bluffed by showing weakness) I guess to me checking and folding to a psb by a short stack seems weak--like I'm being taking advantage of. |
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Re: Flush appears on turn, You make top two but raised all-in..
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Why not bet the turn--i.e don't show weakness? My strong action on the flop followed by a check leaves me very open to being bluffed out on the turn. By not betting, I have no information on my opponent. Why not bet and probably fold to aggression? (at least then I can feel more confident that I'm not being bluffed by showing weakness) [/ QUOTE ] Because with your flop c/r you already have the information that his hand is somewhat strong. You have a marginal hand here and you are OOP, you certainly don't want to play a big pot here, because you simply can't be very confident with your hand. |
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