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02-25-2007, 06:25 AM
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$ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
Villain is kipin, might be 2p2, he runs 17/15/3.2 over 140 hands... I assume he would push on turn w/ AA/KK or anything that beats me, so i push river hoping to get called by JJ/TT/99 other crap that could call here... I have to fold vs a river c/r push, right? When should i check behind on river? Can i push if river is an A or K?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font> SB ($102.15) BB ($162.05) UTG ($28.70) MP ($155.15) Hero ($253.75) Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $9. Flop: ($27.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $18</font>, MP calls $18. Turn: ($63.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $39</font>, MP calls $39. River: ($141.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $183.75 (All-In)</font>, MP folds. Final Pot: $325.25 Note: villain has put in $70 in pot already and has $85 left on river Edit: i just noticed my bets are kinda small on flop/turn.... reason is because in raised pots i was under the assumptions u don't have to bet as much because villain's ranges are narrower, right? 
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#2
02-25-2007, 06:35 AM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
I'd bet more on the flop and turn and then you are much more likely to get called down by 99-JJ on the river.
Flop $24 and the pot becomes $75.50. Turn can then be as small $45 and the pot will be $165.50. Then he only has to call $73 into a bigger pot. $50 on the turn and he will find it hard to fold JJ on the river.
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#3
02-25-2007, 12:05 PM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
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I'd bet more on the flop and turn and then you are much more likely to get called down by 99-JJ on the river. Flop $24 and the pot becomes $75.50. Turn can then be as small $45 and the pot will be $165.50. Then he only has to call $73 into a bigger pot. $50 on the turn and he will find it hard to fold JJ on the river. [/ QUOTE ] I agree with this. Betting more on the flop and turn will make it a lot easier to get the money in the middle on the river.
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#5
02-25-2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
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I think you played this fine. Lol at the idea he folded JJ. [/ QUOTE ] I've played w/ Kipin once or twice, and he is pretty nitty so it isn't impossible that he folded JJ. I agree though that something like 99/TT is probably more likely.
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#6
02-25-2007, 12:59 PM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
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I agree with this. Betting more on the flop and turn will make it a lot easier to get the money in the middle on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Btw against a thinking player this logic is wrong. You wanna leave yourself with a PSB for the river so they think there's a chance you're bluffing.
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#7
02-25-2007, 01:00 PM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
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[ QUOTE ] I agree with this. Betting more on the flop and turn will make it a lot easier to get the money in the middle on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Btw against a thinking player this logic is wrong. You wanna leave yourself with a PSB for the river so they think there's a chance you're bluffing. [/ QUOTE ] Even so, a PSB is better than an overbet, no? So if you bet slightly more on each street, the river push is now a PSB instead of an overbet, like it is here.
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#8
02-25-2007, 01:02 PM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I agree with this. Betting more on the flop and turn will make it a lot easier to get the money in the middle on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Btw against a thinking player this logic is wrong. You wanna leave yourself with a PSB for the river so they think there's a chance you're bluffing. [/ QUOTE ] Even so, a PSB is better than an overbet, no? So if you bet slightly more on each street, the river push is now a PSB instead of an overbet, like it is here. [/ QUOTE ] River is not an overbet, villain doesn't cover. It's barely a half-pot bet.
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#9
02-25-2007, 01:03 PM
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Re: $ NL 100- QQ 1.5 buyins deep
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I agree with this. Betting more on the flop and turn will make it a lot easier to get the money in the middle on the river. [/ QUOTE ] Btw against a thinking player this logic is wrong. You wanna leave yourself with a PSB for the river so they think there's a chance you're bluffing. [/ QUOTE ] Even so, a PSB is better than an overbet, no? So if you bet slightly more on each street, the river push is now a PSB instead of an overbet, like it is here. [/ QUOTE ] River is not an overbet, villain doesn't cover. It's barely a half-pot bet. [/ QUOTE ] My bad! I didn't realize that. Given that, I agree 100% with you.
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