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Old 02-24-2007, 12:50 PM
Rabenstein Rabenstein is offline
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Default [NL100SH] TPTK against possible/likely set

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $96.60
Hero: $225
CO: $48.75
Button: $90.55
SB: $127.65
BB: $152.95

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4</font>, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($13, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $11</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($35, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets $22</font>, Hero calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($79, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: $79

Villian was 16vpip/12pfr, but 4 TAF, so probably a tough one. His large donk in this 3-handed king-high raised pot indicated a strong hand to me, given his preflop call most likely a set or a flushdraw.

Is a calldown a line you can play? Should i fold the turn after he bets again? I wouldnt have called a substantial river bet here.

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Old 02-24-2007, 12:55 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

rabenstain,

i stopped reading once i saw his stack (48BB), your hand (TPTK), the flop (73K 2tone), and the size of the pot after his flop bet (24 w/35 behind). put the pieces together....
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

You're mistaken, he's deepstacked. Its the SB.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

I'd like to see you fire about a pot sized bet on this river, since you're probably going to win the pot very often when you do. If he has a set, he'll be very hard pressed to call (if he's observant) since you played the hand as if you had a flush draw the whole time, and now that it's hit, I think it's a really good spot to take the pot away.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:19 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

i think this is more likely a draw like 4h5h and i would raise flop.
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

The last 2 posts put together symbolize my problem [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

I thought about betting the river hard, but this is NL100. Even if he has no flush but a set, he would rarely fold, because so many villians on NL100 would bet a King or Ace high in position here after the check showed "weakness".

The more fold equity i get from the set, the more suicidal the bet becomes if he actually has the flush. And I don't feel like i could guess the probabilities of his holdings.

If i raised the flop, most players would call the set, and some might call a flushdraw. So if he checks turn, i got to commit myself with TPTK, still not knowing what he is on.
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Old 02-24-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

bump. Any more opinions or comments on my thoughts?
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Old 02-24-2007, 09:44 PM
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Default Re: TPTK against possible/likely set

It's marginal, and you can go either way here. But I don't think this is a great spot for a value bet, since as you said he's not folding a set, you will usually fold out worse hands than TPTK with the scary board, and this smells to me like a possible c/r from a made flush. You played for pot control, you're in as marginal spot and might as well show your hand down.
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