Donked

[marchron]

Why did you raise preflop? Not that I'm terribly against it, I'd just like to know why.

Also, I fail to see how the two folds you described as "WTF??" are really WTF??

[ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S]

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call down, pop river if ya hit yer str8.

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[fretelöo]

What's the rationale behind a free showdown raise? You pay the same and maybe get him to fold a better hand?

[sean c]

Thanks everyone. I wasn't looking for a free showdown raise here. If i raised and was called i was value betting most rivers. I really just wanted to see if anyone thought there was value in a turn raise.

[sean c]

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Why did you raise preflop? Not that I'm terribly against it, I'd just like to know why.

Also, I fail to see how the two folds you described as "WTF??" are really WTF??

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I don't think pre flop really matters much but basically i had position with at least one known bad limper.

The WTF's are pretty simple. What range do you put an unknown SB on that 3-bets pre flop and check/folds this flop? I actually cringed when i raised the flop figuring i was getting 3-bet from him. CO was just that he actually folded not his specialty.

[Big Folder]

I call. I dont want to get 3 bet with tons of outs.

[Absolution]

This is most likely 2 pair or KQ, but you have the odds to call at least on the turn. I wouldn't raise there because you're likely to get donked again. When loose passive players donk they are playing their own cards, which are good, but generally less than a set. I doubt a call on the river is profitable if your read is correct unless you hit or the board pairs, but the pot is big enough that I'd probably call and hope he's overplaying a weak Q or I'm tying with another QT. I'm guessing QJ on this one.

[sean c]

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I wouldn't raise there because you're likely to get donked again.

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I raised he donked again on a river 3 i called and MHIG. I don't think without a really good post flop read i will ever figure out what a donk bet means all i know is i hate them.