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02-22-2007, 03:56 PM
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Re: Small pp limps, capped preflop.
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PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero has a LAG image. Opponents are knows to get out of line a bit. I am posting for a friend this one time - thanks. Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, SB calls. Flop: (16 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (12.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls. River: (15.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>... [/ QUOTE ] Both opponents called down the 3-bet and Hero's hand is good. SB had AJo with the ace of spades. BB had A9s. So in this hand Hero made up 22 small bets postflop. Very nice. Now consider if an ace does not fall on the river-the amount made up is likely 12-14 small bets. 
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#32
02-22-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: Small pp limps, capped preflop.
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[ QUOTE ] PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero has a LAG image. Opponents are knows to get out of line a bit. I am posting for a friend this one time - thanks. Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, SB calls. Flop: (16 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (12.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls. River: (15.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>... [/ QUOTE ] Both opponents called down the 3-bet and Hero's hand is good. SB had AJo with the ace of spades. BB had A9s. So in this hand Hero made up 22 small bets postflop. Very nice. Now consider if an ace does not fall on the river-the amount made up is likely 12-14 small bets. [/ QUOTE ] look at the pf and flop action. say a scare card like a spade or King falls(or hell, even just some rag). what makes you think these guys don't get out of line trying to stab at the pot? they did on most other streets. this is 6 max, where Ahigh is the nuts. A9s made it this far so he likely never folds and AJo guy makes a play pretty often possibly thinking his Ahigh is the best vs. his two LAGgy opponents. an interesting dynamic among LAGs. get several of them at the table and the often try to "outplay"(really outLAG)each other. this lends me to believe we have multiple bets going in on the river in this scenario more often than you give credit.
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#33
02-22-2007, 10:01 PM
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Re: Small pp limps, capped preflop.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums) Hero has a LAG image. Opponents are knows to get out of line a bit. I am posting for a friend this one time - thanks. Preflop: Hero is MP with 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls, CO calls, SB calls. Flop: (16 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds, SB calls, BB calls. Turn: (12.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB calls. River: (15.50 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>... [/ QUOTE ] Both opponents called down the 3-bet and Hero's hand is good. SB had AJo with the ace of spades. BB had A9s. So in this hand Hero made up 22 small bets postflop. Very nice. Now consider if an ace does not fall on the river-the amount made up is likely 12-14 small bets. [/ QUOTE ] look at the pf and flop action. say a scare card like a spade or King falls(or hell, even just some rag). what makes you think these guys don't get out of line trying to stab at the pot? they did on most other streets. this is 6 max, where Ahigh is the nuts. A9s made it this far so he likely never folds and AJo guy makes a play pretty often possibly thinking his Ahigh is the best vs. his two LAGgy opponents. an interesting dynamic among LAGs. get several of them at the table and the often try to "outplay"(really outLAG)each other. this lends me to believe we have multiple bets going in on the river in this scenario more often than you give credit. [/ QUOTE ] James, The more I play 6-max, the more I understand what you are saying here.
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